Business vs Safety fuel
#42
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I’m not a FDX captain, but I fly 777’s for the other US operator. Our business model is different where the customer pays for the fuel. Obviously, good business practices dictate being as efficient as possible but fuel isn’t tracked by the liter/gallon for us. How much are you guys usually landing with in the 777’s? We are usually in the 20,000 - 30,000 lb range with the exception of HKG/CVG which is our longest leg and sometimes as low as 17,000lbs. Just curious.
#43
35-45 minute refuel stop
That is hilarious. This month, when we diverted, it took 1:15 to get someone to marshal us in. That's even after an in range call and in air communication with our dispatcher.
#44
I'm still laughing a bit about that 30-45 min max fuel stop, maybe less, with the fuel truck anxiously awaiting my arrival. I'm thinking the day I get that kind of service will be the day they're also bringing me a double mocha cappuccino and a bacon cheeseburger, cooked medium well, no mayo. All in less than 30-45 minutes.
I diverted to LIT one day. To my surprise we had a power cart and stairs rather promptly.
A few minutes later the fuel truck arrived (but the fueler had never seen an DC-10 before and didn't know how to fuel it ... I did!). Before he loaded fuel I had the FBO call GOC for a credit card number for fuel. That part was easy.
The taxiways looked like they were intended for General Aviation.
Maintenance might have been very difficult if it was necessary although they could have sent a mechanic from MEM with parts in a pickup truck.
The Fire Department drove over just to take a look. They said they had never seen a DC-10 before?
The hardest part was getting a new release and w/b from MEM??? I finally called the DUTY OFFICER who wanted to know what I was doing there (I would have guessed that when I hit the *DIVERT key in ACARS that the GOC checklist would have included, "STEP 2: Advise the Duty Officer?).
Lesson learned ... divert to a FDX Station if you can!
#45
The first year I was on the 75 (we had 10 at the time) I started diverting to AFW from MEM because that was our alternate and we were holding over LIT, I think. When we got over Texarkana GOC sent us an ACARS telling us to go to ICT because AFW didn't have 75 stairs. Thumbs up to GOC for realizing that. We got fuel at ICT and got a new release. Our alternate for that leg ----- AFW
#46
"The other US operator"? Which one is the other one? Your public profile doesn't say?
"Brown" is the only other real freight operator. They have exactly ZERO 777's.
Delta, United & American all have 777's? Which one is "the other one"?
#47
I think he might be referring to Southern (now owned by Atlas) which I believe is the only other US operator flying 777Fs.
#48
KIX-IND (170K) - 27K (re-dispatch flight plan)
OAK-NRT (125K) - 36K
KIX-OAK (150K) - 31K
MEM-HNL (136K) - 29K
KIX-MEM (140K) - 23K (re-dispatch flight plan)
ANC-KIX (120K) - 34K
#49
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20's to low 30's seems like what I've been seeing lately on the longer flights. Here's my last few flights with payload and planned landing fuel. I don't have the actual landing number, but as I recall all the flights were as planned if not slightly higher.
KIX-IND (170K) - 27K (re-dispatch flight plan)
OAK-NRT (125K) - 36K
KIX-OAK (150K) - 31K
MEM-HNL (136K) - 29K
KIX-MEM (140K) - 23K (re-dispatch flight plan)
ANC-KIX (120K) - 34K
KIX-IND (170K) - 27K (re-dispatch flight plan)
OAK-NRT (125K) - 36K
KIX-OAK (150K) - 31K
MEM-HNL (136K) - 29K
KIX-MEM (140K) - 23K (re-dispatch flight plan)
ANC-KIX (120K) - 34K
#50
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Position: 777 Left window seat
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Lol. Southern has 6 777F’s. My bad for not typing “the other US 777F operator”. We’ve been flying triples since 2010
Last edited by Birdsmash; 07-26-2018 at 07:23 PM.
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