As long as all the other seniority holding management/tech/training seagulls are there too. The company has a legion of them.

Capt Zero used to fly disputed pairings...and good on him for doing so.

But I ran into him in SEA while he was flying one of the more onerous ones. I expressed surprise at seeing him, and after he pontificated that the DP wasn’t that bad.
I told him, with all due respect, that I thought it likely the load goes a bit smoother for the SCP and flying One trip a month in good weather is a lot different than week of flying.

With all due respect to TL...he’s not going to have an inkling of a clue unless he’s operating on the line a whole lot more than I expect he will.

On the other hand, bet it’ll be a great kilt picture one day

He would deadhead into a disputed pairing "in progress" and fly the offensive portion, having given himself a good rest before flying the nasty, onerous part.
Sometimes a sequence doesn't seem as bad if it doesn't follow a min rest that followed a max-duty, 3-leg hubturn night plagued with weather delays and 2 de-icing/anti-icing evolutions. Starting fresh ain't quite the same.






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You are missing the point. He was hired as a manager, and then years later given a seniority number.

If you don't see the potential problems of the company hiring managers first, and then giving them a seniority number so that they can fly revenue flights, talk to the UPS pilots.

The proverbial camel's nose is under the tent!:(

The UPS NURPs aren’t on the seniority list and are hired directly as LCAs and supervisors. It’s not exactly the same as what is happening here.

-UA

That is true, but what is to prevent the company from making these managers captains and using them the same as UPS uses the NURPs.

Edit:

The contract has a section about pilots transferring to management, not the other way around.

What contractual restriction on who the company can hire would you like to see in CBA 202X.

There is language about management pilots returning to the line.

UA

He wasn't hired as a line pilot, he was hired as a manager. How would he return to the line if he was never hired to the line?

Oh yeah, I forgot, the company always follows what we think the intent of the contract is!:rolleyes:

ALPA seat on the screening panel / hiring board

Preferential hiring for ALPA furloughees ...

Restore Pilot Recommendations which actually matter (Why do they care what I think about probationary pilots when they don't care who I want them to interview?)

Abolish extracontracual requirements placed on probationary pilots. Pilot Evaluations, 6-month checkups, exit interviews ... all made up and imposed on new guys under threat of being fired without cause.

Reduce probation period to original length - 0 days

How'm I doin' so far?






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