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Old 11-06-2018, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX View Post
I don’t understand this either. I’ve had a few times where I’d like to come in a couple hours earlier and give myself multiple chances but don’t because I wouldn’t be covered under that clause.
IMO, I think you might want to re-think this. Is the commute to get to domicile in time for one's trip or to meet the commute clause in the contract? I don't understand bypassing a jump seat a couple of hours earlier that increases your chances of completing your commute to take a later one - just to have protection from some vague "discipline" that most likely isn't going to amount to anything, especially if it's your first offense. If the protection meant you got paid, that would be another story. However, either way, you're out the pay which is all I'm really worried about. But, if it's a broken aircraft before departure, now you've got another chance. Unless you've got a string of missed trips already or you're on probation, I'd take the extra shot at a ride EVERY time I commuted.
But, I commute without protection every month, so maybe I'm not the guy to ask.
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:29 PM
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I never understood that policy. When I intern'd at flight cord I'd give out a sleep room to anyone! Guess somethings never change.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:37 PM
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If I was a night hub turner, (I am 777, not exactly a hub turner), and was denied a sleep room cuz a 777 guy was using it and was departing the next afternoon, I would be ****ed.

You can argue the other priorities, but a night hub turner, working in an out, should be number 1.
Then maybe if you worked in, or worked out.
If you didn't work in or out of the night hub turn, I am OK with being last on the pecking order.
FYI, the order of priorities in the new policy goes like this:
1) Hub turner
2) AM/PM OB
3) JUMPSEATERS (after 0100)
4) International

So, I DO have a problem with JS having priority over International departures and so should you all.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:44 PM
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Dude! Why the F would you want to sleep in those rooms for 16 hours let alone 12? Gross. Like for sure. Get a hotel room you cheap bas tard.
Dude! I jumseated in at 2300 and was told to wait until 0300 to get a room for a international afternoon trip...So, you're saying my justification for sleeproom is to save money? WRONG! Ya, going out at 2300 to Democrat lot, drive to get a hotel, checking in, etc vice getting a sleeproom...ya.

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Old 11-07-2018, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
Just for clarity: He's talking about getting to MEM around noon, give or take, for an early AM departure the next morning.
The OP was actually talking about getting to MEM on the evening jumpseat to leave on an international trip the next afternoon. While I think that sleep room priority should be for pilots turning, I think that after 0200L in MEM, everyone turning who wanted a sleep room would have gotten one. If you can't wait until all of the arrivals have had a chance to get a room for hub turning, then you need to consider a hotel.
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Originally Posted by magic rat View Post
FYI, the order of priorities in the new policy goes like this:
1) Hub turner
2) AM/PM OB
3) JUMPSEATERS (after 0100)
4) International

So, I DO have a problem with JS having priority over International departures and so should you all.
Having been exhausted after operating into MEM and flying international as well, I don't have a problem with a JS who operated in having priority over a pilot who has over 12 hours until show time for their trip.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
IMO, I think you might want to re-think this. Is the commute to get to domicile in time for one's trip or to meet the commute clause in the contract? I don't understand bypassing a jump seat a couple of hours earlier that increases your chances of completing your commute to take a later one - just to have protection from some vague "discipline" that most likely isn't going to amount to anything, especially if it's your first offense. If the protection meant you got paid, that would be another story. However, either way, you're out the pay which is all I'm really worried about. But, if it's a broken aircraft before departure, now you've got another chance. Unless you've got a string of missed trips already or you're on probation, I'd take the extra shot at a ride EVERY time I commuted.
But, I commute without protection every month, so maybe I'm not the guy to ask.

If I come in for the earlier flight that takes me beyond the 13:30 and it and my back up fail, I’m not protected. I lose pay and are now on the radar. And like you said, it’s different for pilots on probation. Their priority is the protection, not the pay.

I guess I like to have my cake and eat it too.

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Old 11-07-2018, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by magic rat View Post
Dude! I jumseated in at 2300 and was told to wait until 0300 to get a room for a international afternoon trip...So, you're saying my justification for sleeproom is to save money? WRONG! Ya, going out at 2300 to Democrat lot, drive to get a hotel, checking in, etc vice getting a sleeproom...ya.

Party on Wayne.
Yes. that’s exactly what I would do. Well, not exactly. Most likely I would jumpseat in the day of the trip like a big boy instead of sucking my thumb in front if flight ops with a poopy diaper crying for a nappy room. #tissueandawetwipe.
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker View Post
The OP was actually talking about getting to MEM on the evening jumpseat to leave on an international trip the next afternoon.
Yes, I understand. I was responding to Dakota who was talking morning j/s and assumed Appdude was as well.
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Originally Posted by magic rat View Post
Dude! I jumseated in at 2300 and was told to wait until 0300 to get a room for a international afternoon trip...So, you're saying my justification for sleeproom is to save money? WRONG! Ya, going out at 2300 to Democrat lot, drive to get a hotel, checking in, etc vice getting a sleeproom...ya.

Party on Wayne.
Jeez dude, quit being so cheap and get a hotel room!
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