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Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 2838901)

Except you're basically a FedEx RJ pilot

Fine by me. Easier airports to get in and out of, quiet downtown layovers. + seniority... I took all of June off for vacation.

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2838499)

Well, I’d be SOL

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 2838638)

Good God, you’re getting a 757 slot for your first assignment at an “airline” and folks act like they’re being sent to the Gulags in Siberia. The 757 at FedEx, right out of the gate, is a great place to be. You’ll advance quickly in terms of relative seniority in the right seat and you’ll have the opportunity to bid out of the seat in a little over a year, worst case scenario, and move to a wide body. I did 3 years in the right seat of the 757 and had a good time (all the while on widebody pay) and flew with several captains who sat sideways working the panel before even seeing the right seat at FedEx.

If the 75 is so good and you're on WB pay, then why did you leave it?

It's all relative. If the payscales were reversed, I wonder how many senior people would stay on the 75? Probably not many.. lol..

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2838665)

In retrospect, you’re 10000% right. 757 wouldn’t be my first choice, but not the worst option out there.

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Originally Posted by coryk (Post 2838843)

757 is the BEST first airplane at FedEx, IMO. Quickest movement and you get to see the “worst” of our flying. The guys who go straight to the 777, oh boy... good luck with your first hub turn, haha. They are so spoiled..

Why would anyone on the 777 ever have to do a hub turn?

There are a lot of people that would rather sit at the bottom of the list on the 777 then be 10% on the 75. Its all about preferences.

But thats whats great about FDX as there is a schedule type for just about everyone.

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Originally Posted by c17heavy (Post 2838684)

Exactly an over-privileged millennial. Lol.

Damn, you got me all figured out :D

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Originally Posted by 123456 (Post 2839036)

I took that as simply meaning you'll be starting out in the hole with @20 guys in front of you so last choice and lower seniority for ever.. And the Airbus went the most junior in a lot of the classes this year.

If the 75 is so good and you're on WB pay, then why did you leave it?

It's all relative. If the payscales were reversed, I wonder how many senior people would stay on the 75? Probably not many.. lol..

Why would anyone on the 777 ever have to do a hub turn?

There are a lot of people that would rather sit at the bottom of the list on the 777 then be 10% on the 75. Its all about preferences.

But thats whats great about FDX as there is a schedule type for just about everyone.

That’s exactly what I was eluding too, but I’m an “over privileged millennial” sooooo :)

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Originally Posted by 123456 (Post 2839036)

Why would anyone on the 777 ever have to do a hub turn?

Because someone’s gotta fly TPE-KIX-NRT, KIX-PVG-NRT, CDG-CGN-CDG or the dreaded CGN-CDG-MUC-FRA.

The 777 is hardly immune from multi-leg duty periods and hub-turns. Certainly not to the same extent as the domestic bubbas but if you’re junior, you won’t avoid them all the time.

Agreed. I've done those! But still way different than the 75 trips, or even AB for that matter. But I truly think the 75 hub turn lines out of CGN are probably the roughest the system.

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Originally Posted by 123456 (Post 2839282)

Agreed. I've done those! But still way different than the 75 trips, or even AB for that matter. But I truly think the 75 hub turn lines out of CGN are probably the roughest the system.

The CGN hub turns aren't that bad. Every airport has an ILS and towered operations and the weather is no where near as bad as what happens in the states where cells up to FL600 aren't uncommon. I'll take CDG-ARN-HEL vs HRL-LRD-AFW any day and twice on sunday.

Sorry but HKG has the best bidpack.. Double deadheads, long layovers, 5 star hotels, & widebody pay. :)

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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2839201)

This is great! While the thread is on the subject, could y'all expand on some of these duty sequences? What times do these legs operate? What are some examples of typical "hub turn" pairings?

Anyone care to chime in with what they consider the most challenging pairings on the different aircraft types?

I went to a job fair a while back, one of the recruiters was like, "are you sure you want this job?? Do you know how rough our schedules are?!?"
I'm at one of the ULCCs where we do some pretty nutty red-eye work. I frequently wonder how much worse it could possibly be flying boxes.... At least there would be quieter; no medical emergencies or drunken brawls in the back of the plane.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by King Julian (Post 2839432)

The “mean” ugly pairing is leave the hotel about 7pm central time fly two legs into a hub take a 1.5 to 3 hour break and leave the hub about 4am with one leg to a hotel, 11 hours in the rack, and repeat 3 or 4 times a week. 4-6 hours of block for 6 hours of pay. The good news is you will never ever leave the hotel late because of a Flight attendant.

Again these are the ugly pairings.