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HvypurplePylot 09-12-2022 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3493253)
Things have slowed down *significantly* out on the line.

what are you seeing that tells you that? Payloads? Open time? Block hours per fleet?

Freighthumper 09-12-2022 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by opas76 (Post 3493289)
I disagree. We’re more properly staffed.

And there isn’t an abnormal amount of the staff unavailable because they are out sick with Covid.

nunyabiz 09-12-2022 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3493253)
Things have slowed down *significantly* out on the line.


The amount of “red” trips on my calendar suggests otherwise.

I think it’s more that things are returning to normal and we are finally getting properly staffed.

The schoolhouse always slows throughput during peak. This isn’t new

Pman 09-12-2022 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 3493304)
what are you seeing that tells you that? Payloads? Open time? Block hours per fleet?

All of the above

ClncClarence 09-12-2022 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3493271)
What information are we not privy to? We know how many seats were available for new hires from the last bid. If the class drops are accurate, we know how many of those seats have been filled. Simple math tells you how many seats are left.

We don’t know what seats are available
from one class to another. You can kind of guess by looking at the training letter but there’s no way to tell exactly what is going to be offered.

170driver 09-12-2022 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by ClncClarence (Post 3493452)
We don’t know what seats are available
from one class to another. You can kind of guess by looking at the training letter but there’s no way to tell exactly what is going to be offered.


When a bid closes do they publish the unbid positions that will be offered to new hires?

pinseeker 09-12-2022 11:34 AM

I said...


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3493054)
Just curious, how do the drops help you figure out what your life would be like if you get hired?

I think what would be more helpful is finding out what seats are still left and how many. Even that doesn't tell you what will be available to a new hire class, only what may be available.

You responded.


Originally Posted by ClncClarence (Post 3493090)
We as pilots are not privy to this info. Our bidding/award system is hot garbage and is designed 100% to benefit management. I wasn’t around for the contract that allowed this to happen, but I think too few people realize how terrible our system is compared to our peers.

I then said...


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3493271)
What information are we not privy to? We know how many seats were available for new hires from the last bid. If the class drops are accurate, we know how many of those seats have been filled. Simple math tells you how many seats are left.

And you responded...


Originally Posted by ClncClarence (Post 3493452)
We don’t know what seats are available
from one class to another. You can kind of guess by looking at the training letter but there’s no way to tell exactly what is going to be offered.

Which brings us back to my original post. If you had read the whole thing, you would see that I stated that we still wouldn't know what would be offered in each class.

pinseeker 09-12-2022 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 3493459)
When a bid closes do they publish the unbid positions that will be offered to new hires?

They publish all available positions. Any position that goes unfilled is available to a new hire. Our contract requires the company to offer any new vacancies to a pilot already on the property before they can fill it with a new hire. That is the reason we have such large bids and they take a year to years to train out. That allows the company to hire into a lot more seats and avoids them training a new hire into the 757 only to have to train them again in a year or less into a wide body. If we had small and frequent bids, that is what would most likely happen.

Noworkallplay 09-12-2022 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 3493304)
what are you seeing that tells you that? Payloads? Open time? Block hours per fleet?

From SIG Notes

“In place of wet-leasing, the MD-10-30s will be operating for this quarter as SIBA, and expect to be retired in early 2023. Our single wet leasing contract will expire in 2023 and there is currently no future wet leasing planned. As previously stated, overall fleet credit hours have been reduced recently, and the Company is planning on possible economic slowdown in 2023.”


Good thing we had the MD SIBA bid otherwise it would have been subbed out via wet lease per SIG notes?

I would rather see FDX pilots fly that than get a penalty payment. Although our scope has done a good job maintaining and growing our fleet and pilot seniority list.

FXLAX 09-12-2022 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3493670)

I would rather see FDX pilots fly that than get a penalty payment. Although our scope has done a good job maintaining and growing our fleet and pilot seniority list.


If you rather see FDX pilots fly that then it means scope isn’t up to your standards?


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