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Old 09-06-2019 | 06:37 AM
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Greetings,
New to 777, trying to make sure I don't get removed from a trip in bidding month to month for 100/30 violation.
My question is w/r/t block hours while RFO and the 100/30 rule...does only 2/3 of the trip block go towards the 100/30 tally?

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Old 09-06-2019 | 09:41 AM
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Many, many years ago, I had some problems with 100/30. I asked the union to ask the company to add a question to the bid. "If you have a 100/30 issue, would you like to default to your next bid choice?" I wanted the question added to the list of questions you answer when you bid. This would save people who might have an entire line dropped during a vacation month, when they needed to burn vacation before the end of the year so they didn't lose it.

This was before the last contract, and I brought it up to the NC, and many others. Nothing changed. I couldn't believe that such a simple solution to a problem faced by many crew members would be rejected.

This ended up being one of the many reasons I voted no.

This could be fixed, and easily, without waiting for the next contract.

All it takes is someone to do the right thing.
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Old 09-06-2019 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
Many, many years ago, I had some problems with 100/30. I asked the union to ask the company to add a question to the bid. "If you have a 100/30 issue, would you like to default to your next bid choice?" I wanted the question added to the list of questions you answer when you bid. This would save people who might have an entire line dropped during a vacation month, when they needed to burn vacation before the end of the year so they didn't lose it.

This was before the last contract, and I brought it up to the NC, and many others. Nothing changed. I couldn't believe that such a simple solution to a problem faced by many crew members would be rejected.

This ended up being one of the many reasons I voted no.

This could be fixed, and easily, without waiting for the next contract.

All it takes is someone to do the right thing.
That was a great idea, but do you have the answer to my question?
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Old 09-06-2019 | 01:43 PM
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If you only ask for 2/3 of the block over pay, then you should be good.

It's all of the tube time no matter which seat you occupy.😣😣
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Old 09-06-2019 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Walrus
If you only ask for 2/3 of the block over pay, then you should be good.

It's all of the tube time no matter which seat you occupy.😣😣
Walrus, I apologize, but (1) what do you mean by the first sentence? and (2) so RFO block time trip is treated as 100% block time regardless?
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Old 09-06-2019 | 02:54 PM
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I was being a smart ass. Point is, if you are a required crewmember on the flight, the Faa counts it.
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Old 09-06-2019 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
Greetings,
New to 777, trying to make sure I don't get removed from a trip in bidding month to month for 100/30 violation.
My question is w/r/t block hours while RFO and the 100/30 rule...does only 2/3 of the trip block go towards the 100/30 tally?

Thanks in advance!
Rat,
I’m not sure if this will make a difference in your situation, but a few things to know:
W/r/t the 100 hour limit, the limit is a calendar month, not 30 consecutive days.
The 100 hour limit only applies if you operate on a 2-pilot crew during that month.
As an RFO operating exclusively on augmented crews, your limit is 120 hours in 30 consecutive days.
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Old 09-06-2019 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
That was a great idea, but do you have the answer to my question?
No, I am sorry, I don't.

But if my suggestion were implemented, your question would be moot.
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Old 09-06-2019 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Rat,
I’m not sure if this will make a difference in your situation, but a few things to know:
W/r/t the 100 hour limit, the limit is a calendar month, not 30 consecutive days.
The 100 hour limit only applies if you operate on a 2-pilot crew during that month.
As an RFO operating exclusively on augmented crews, your limit is 120 hours in 30 consecutive days.
Thanks, that does clear it up, I was wrong in my interpretation. You are correct (Google agrees)! The 30 in 7 is consecutive, but the 100 in 30 is calendar month like you pointed out.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 04:19 AM
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Do need to pay attention when you bid, since our bidmonths straddle calendar months.
the 100 in 30 has bit more than one International flyer.
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