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Old 07-11-2012 | 07:44 AM
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Can they still be a DCI operator with 100 MRJs and the newer scope clause? Apparently they are thinking of ordering 100 Mitsubishi RJs for delivery between 2017 and 2020.

I see here that plane sits 70-90, so up to 76 seats would be allowed up to the limit of 223 total.

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Can they still be a DCI operator with 100 MRJs and the newer scope clause? Apparently they are thinking of ordering 100 Mitsubishi RJs for delivery between 2017 and 2020.
You voted yes on yall's TA, you can't have it both ways bud. You had the chance to keep this from happening but you wasted it, thanks.
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Old 07-11-2012 | 07:52 AM
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You voted yes on yall's TA, you can't have it both ways bud. You had the chance to keep this from happening but you wasted it, thanks.
Quit the grandstanding. Wikipedia says it seats 70-90. So, if it's at 76 seats, that's fine, within the scope limits set. A-okay. If they go over 76 seats, I don't think that sits well with our clause. Only Frontier via Republic is permitted to have planes over 76 seats flying for them.
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In Delta's new TA, is there a weight restriction in addition to the seat restriction for DCI?
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Can they still be a DCI operator with 100 MRJs and the newer scope clause? Apparently they are thinking of ordering 100 Mitsubishi RJs for delivery between 2017 and 2020.
Wiki lists the max GW for the various models as between 81.2 and 94.3. For seating the lower end is 78 seats and up well into the 90's and beyond. I'm thinking they will be able to weasel in under our limits though. If not, the company will squeal how they can't make them abide by a contract they (SKYW) never agreed to and it would cost trillions of dollars and liquidate DAL if we enforced it so we'd grant relief anyway.

I'd LOVE to see the FFD welfare plug pulled on that operation and force them to compete (and lose badly) on real airline flying rather than leaching off of the scope clauses of other pilot groups and other brands.
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Old 07-11-2012 | 08:10 AM
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Wiki lists the max GW for the various models as between 81.2 and 94.3. For seating the lower end is 78 seats and up well into the 90's and beyond. I'm thinking they will be able to weasel in under our limits though. If not, the company will squeal how they can't make them abide by a contract they (SKYW) never agreed to and it would cost trillions of dollars and liquidate DAL if we enforced it so we'd grant relief anyway.

I'd LOVE to see the FFD welfare plug pulled on that operation and force them to compete (and lose badly) on real airline flying rather than leaching off of the scope clauses of other pilot groups and other brands.

The next Indy Air. I think they should try it.
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Can they still be a DCI operator with 100 MRJs and the newer scope clause? Apparently they are thinking of ordering 100 Mitsubishi RJs for delivery between 2017 and 2020.

I see here that plane sits 70-90, so up to 76 seats would be allowed up to the limit of 223 total.
???????????

Why are you asking? Just read the contract. Its all in one paragraph.

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Old 07-11-2012 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Quit the grandstanding. Wikipedia says it seats 70-90. So, if it's at 76 seats, that's fine, within the scope limits set. A-okay. If they go over 76 seats, I don't think that sits well with our clause. Only Frontier via Republic is permitted to have planes over 76 seats flying for them.
You might want to recheck how the CRJ 900's and E-175 are operated for US Aiways, my understating is that these airplanes are operated at 79 and 80 seats respectively!
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
The next Indy Air. I think they should try it.
The next RAH actually. I mean the next Frontier/RAH.

We just need to add Skywest/ExpressJet and Compass/GoJet names to the bottom of 1.D.2.

Now you don't have an issue with that 1.D.2 exception, right?
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Can they still be a DCI operator with 100 MRJs and the newer scope clause? Apparently they are thinking of ordering 100 Mitsubishi RJs for delivery between 2017 and 2020.

I see here that plane sits 70-90, so up to 76 seats would be allowed up to the limit of 223 total.
Amazing how that was announced within mere days after you guys voted that contract in God, we're so gullible.
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