SKW getting 100 MRJs?
07-11-2012 | 10:29 AM
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From: Poodle Whisperer
A 747-400 is a 500+ seat airplane, but that doesn't mean you put in as many seats as you possibly can in it.
07-11-2012 | 10:35 AM
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Contracts don't expire, they become amendable.
They aren't amended unless a new agreement is reached. It doesn't just become void (Pinnacle's contract was amendable from 2005- an agreement was finally reached last year, CAL and UAL have been amendable for a while as well)
They aren't amended unless a new agreement is reached. It doesn't just become void (Pinnacle's contract was amendable from 2005- an agreement was finally reached last year, CAL and UAL have been amendable for a while as well)
07-11-2012 | 10:47 AM
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And do you honestly think that they will not find a way around that?
07-11-2012 | 11:03 AM
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Ha! True. With the number of yes votes, Delta is probably kicking themselves cause they couldve gotten a few more seats allowed. Next TA will probably add 5-10 more seats, at least..
07-11-2012 | 11:08 AM
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6 months ago I would of bet lots of $$$ that DALPA would not give up more 70+ seat RJ's. Now, I'd be shocked if DALPA could ever truly hold the line in regards to SCOPE. The current contract is proof that something is always for sale with the Delta pilots.
07-11-2012 | 11:27 AM
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So what does Deltas PWA say regarding scope?
Is it weight, certified seats?
If it's just seats and no other criteria then whats to stop them from farming out 25 737s that have 70 seats, all business class, coast-to-coast premium service to skywest?
Is it weight, certified seats?
If it's just seats and no other criteria then whats to stop them from farming out 25 737s that have 70 seats, all business class, coast-to-coast premium service to skywest?
07-11-2012 | 11:40 AM
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MTOW of the 51-76 jets in the DAL contract is 86000 lbs. There is a Compass only exception for 36 EMB-175's MTOW up to 89,000 lbs. According to the Mitsubishi website the MRJ-70STD MTOW is about 82000, and the MRJ-70ER is just under 86000. All the MRJ-90's are too big for our contract restrictions.
Last edited by nwaf16dude; 07-11-2012 at 11:49 AM. Reason: better source
07-11-2012 | 11:43 AM
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Alright, let me see if I can help out the cause. Here are three excerpts from the PWA:
Section 1.B.46, the definition of what a permitted aircraft is for DCI:
Section 1.C where we say all flying is ours. Section 1.D where we exempt DCI (or category A operations) from 1.C. and then 1.B.11-13 where we define category A operations as DCI.
Section 1.B.46, the definition of what a permitted aircraft is for DCI:
Section 1.C where we say all flying is ours. Section 1.D where we exempt DCI (or category A operations) from 1.C. and then 1.B.11-13 where we define category A operations as DCI.
07-11-2012 | 12:00 PM
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From: Light Chop
Now the MRJ's:
For comparison purposes the specifications of the E-175 is here and you can find the E-190 stuff at http://www.embraer.com/en-US/Aeronaves/Pages/Home.aspx:
http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...wnload/137.pdf
For comparison purposes the specifications of the E-175 is here and you can find the E-190 stuff at http://www.embraer.com/en-US/Aeronaves/Pages/Home.aspx:
http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...wnload/137.pdf
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