New Hire Aircraft Bidding
06-06-2022, 10:27 AM
#81
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
That was addressed by others who stated that if you were close to the end of your restriction, you could bid. There are 100s of scenarios here, but the bottom line is you will stay in your WB aircraft for at least 24 months. Did your buddy start 777 training before the end of his restriction?
06-06-2022, 12:19 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
That was addressed by others who stated that if you were close to the end of your restriction, you could bid. There are 100s of scenarios here, but the bottom line is you will stay in your WB aircraft for at least 24 months. Did your buddy start 777 training before the end of his restriction?
06-06-2022, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
This is what I am curious about. Imagine getting a WB slot, waiting two years like some may do in this bid and then get a seat lock for 2 years all to have another two year bid come end before your seat lock is up.
06-06-2022, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
This is what I am curious about. Imagine getting a WB slot, waiting two years like some may do in this bid and then get a seat lock for 2 years all to have another two year bid come end before your seat lock is up.
I honestly don't know why we waste time/energy with system bids now that we've given up passover pay. At this point we should just go to a quarterly transfer/training bid.
06-06-2022, 03:12 PM
#85
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GTFO here with your common sense. This place likes to think we are the best bc we do things differently. If accounting ran the airline like legal did, then you could bet your a$$ we’d be doing more frequent bids.
06-06-2022, 06:57 PM
#86
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
That was addressed by others who stated that if you were close to the end of your restriction, you could bid. There are 100s of scenarios here, but the bottom line is you will stay in your WB aircraft for at least 24 months. Did your buddy start 777 training before the end of his restriction?
In our most recent system bid management granted seat lock waivers because at the time of the bid, they forecast that our next bid was quite far away. So those participating in the bid in that situation had to have a waiver.
06-07-2022, 12:17 PM
#87
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So has the pacing of new hires/mandatory retirements changed the dynamics of bids out of indoc recently? I know over at American places like Charlotte used to take 5+ years to hold. Now they drop out of indoc 5-10 at a time. Has anything like that been seen at Fedex?
06-07-2022, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NCST
So has the pacing of new hires/mandatory retirements changed the dynamics of bids out of indoc recently? I know over at American places like Charlotte used to take 5+ years to hold. Now they drop out of indoc 5-10 at a time. Has anything like that been seen at Fedex?
06-07-2022, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by genericusername
You cannot down/lateral bid prior to the end of the seat lock period without a waiver approved by Vice President, Flight Operations (CBA 24.F.1.e.i). Each subsequent time you down/lateral bid the seat lock period increases. The period commencement date is based upon seat activation date.
In our most recent system bid management granted seat lock waivers because at the time of the bid, they forecast that our next bid was quite far away. So those participating in the bid in that situation had to have a waiver.
In our most recent system bid management granted seat lock waivers because at the time of the bid, they forecast that our next bid was quite far away. So those participating in the bid in that situation had to have a waiver.
As I said, there are 100s of scenarios. Lets say your two year lock ends on March 15. The bid closes on March 16, but the first training date on the bid isn't until May 3rd. Can you bid? All of that is usually answered in the FAQ for that specific bid. Bottom line is to count on a 2 year seat lock before you can train out of that seat. It may be longer than that, but you will be in that seat for at least 2 years unless you upgrade to a higher paying seat or bid to an FDA.
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