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We really need to stop calling it R24, because there really are only a few occasions when you’ll get 24hr notice before a trip, and one of them is checking VIPS on your day off. Mostly you get hub turned or sent out on some bogus HSBY where you subsequently have none of the ‘protections’ afforded to normal RA/RB holders. But we have good vacation, so who cares right?
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Is there another legacy/major/cargo, etc. that has R24? How do they do it?

Our CBA demands 24-hours notice before show, so how exactly does that happen while still making that notification inside the first Rday? Can't get there from here. What's your solution? What all the complainers are ignoring is the trade off is at the other end of that block of R24 days. If there is no assignment, then 1 minute into the last Rday in that block, the pilot is released and has the day off. Like someone said, if you don't like that, then don't bid R24. Come up with a better plan and present it. Saying other airlines do it differently with no specifics doesn't help.
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Quote: We really need to stop calling it R24, because there really are only a few occasions when you’ll get 24hr notice before a trip, and one of them is checking VIPS on your day off. Mostly you get hub turned or sent out on some bogus HSBY where you subsequently have none of the ‘protections’ afforded to normal RA/RB holders. But we have good vacation, so who cares right?
Stay off VIPS and wait for a phone call. You're not required to login to VIPS. Nothing stops an RA or RB from being hub-turned as well. We're talking about a tiny percentage of the total reserve lines in any bid pack. They don't go junior, so enough pilots like them as they are. Submit suggestions to make them better if you have them.
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Quote: We really need to stop calling it R24, because there really are only a few occasions when you’ll get 24hr notice before a trip, and one of them is checking VIPS on your day off. Mostly you get hub turned or sent out on some bogus HSBY where you subsequently have none of the ‘protections’ afforded to normal RA/RB holders. But we have good vacation, so who cares right?

I agree that the HSBY is BS. What I don't get is the protections that are afforded to RA/RB holders. What protections are you referring to?
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Quote: Well, the contract says those are the number of days days you are on reserve. It then defines the call out/availability window. It seems like you are having issue with the call out window. Or is it that you are trying to find a way to reduce the number of days you have to work on R24? IMO, the better fight would be to remove the ability for R24 to be put into a hotel standby in a hub city. That is how the company is abusing the intent of R24. By putting you in hotel standby, they have reduced your call out from 24 hours to 1-1.5 hours.
Hold on because I’m about to blow your mind. We should have both.

If I’m “on call” that’s not a day off; pay me for it. I’m at the company’s whim no matter what color my calendar is. This is a basic and universal standard in the industry except at FedEx. Why the pushback? I’m promoting a more honest reserve system.
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Quote: Is there another legacy/major/cargo, etc. that has R24? How do they do it?

Our CBA demands 24-hours notice before show, so how exactly does that happen while still making that notification inside the first Rday? Can't get there from here. What's your solution? What all the complainers are ignoring is the trade off is at the other end of that block of R24 days. If there is no assignment, then 1 minute into the last Rday in that block, the pilot is released and has the day off. Like someone said, if you don't like that, then don't bid R24. Come up with a better plan and present it. Saying other airlines do it differently with no specifics doesn't help.
It’s a really simple concept. If you are on R24 April 1-15, they can call you 0001 on April 1 to show 0001 April 2. Then you are available until April 15 with 24hrs notice. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
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Quote: It’s a really simple concept. If you are on R24 April 1-15, they can call you 0001 on April 1 to show 0001 April 2. Then you are available until April 15 with 24hrs notice. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Not difficult. That's one way to construct the reserve system, but that's not how ours is currently. It also negates the first day of availability in your scenario and makes that pilot available to actually fly for 14 days, not 15. Good luck selling a free day for every R24 block. Again, how do other companies do it. Who has R24? Give a specific example of how this has been addressed elsewhere.
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Quote: I agree that the HSBY is BS. What I don't get is the protections that are afforded to RA/RB holders. What protections are you referring to?
I believe the CBA requires 18hr notice to switch reserve periods, and also triggers a 1.5ch disruption penalty. Both help keep these events to a minimum from my experience
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Quote: Hold on because I’m about to blow your mind. We should have both.

If I’m “on call” that’s not a day off; pay me for it. I’m at the company’s whim no matter what color my calendar is. This is a basic and universal standard in the industry except at FedEx. Why the pushback? I’m promoting a more honest reserve system.
Seems to me you want an extra day off - I agree with what someone else said is that it doesn’t go junior so folks who bid it must want it, and it is a small percentage of the reserve lines. If you want the company to pay you to answer your phone so they can tell you that you have a trip starting 24+ hours from now they could add a day to each R24 block and reduce the guarantee for your R24 days. They aren’t going to simply give you a free day. You mention ‘Industry Standard’ in your posts - I am glad FedEx isn’t industry standard in several areas. Retirement, Vacation, and trip guarantee come to mind.

Be careful what you ask for or we will become ‘Industry Standard’ like everyone else. I fly with a lot of new hires who came here from all of the legacies, Major, National, LCC and even a few from UPS, and I’m hard pressed to hear about very many folks leaving here and going to those places. There’s a good reason for that.
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Quote: Seems to me you want an extra day off - I agree with what someone else said is that it doesn’t go junior so folks who bid it must want it, and it is a small percentage of the reserve lines. If you want the company to pay you to answer your phone so they can tell you that you have a trip starting 24+ hours from now they could add a day to each R24 block and reduce the guarantee for your R24 days. They aren’t going to simply give you a free day. You mention ‘Industry Standard’ in your posts - I am glad FedEx isn’t industry standard in several areas. Retirement, Vacation, and trip guarantee come to mind.

Be careful what you ask for or we will become ‘Industry Standard’ like everyone else. I fly with a lot of new hires who came here from all of the legacies, Major, National, LCC and even a few from UPS, and I’m hard pressed to hear about very many folks leaving here and going to those places. There’s a good reason for that.
So you’re against industry standard? Does that include pay rates too?

With you’re logic, we shouldn’t get paid for our 1 in 7 reserve days. If I’m on reserve 12 days in a row, I definitely want that pay. And while you bring up reserve pay per day, I also submitted that reserve should pay 6hrs/day whether they are used or not. Do you think that’s unreasonable as well?
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