RSV question
03-05-2022, 09:01 AM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,099
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Get really spun up and politic to change the contract at some point. Probably not this time around considering the focused approach.
03-05-2022, 01:33 PM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 670
Originally Posted by FXLAX
I’d like to see our contract reflect the time you are phone liable as a work (duty) day. At least because the FAA sees it as a duty day. But like you said, maybe next time. It would be less confusing if the calendar reflected when you are on duty on an R day like it does for any other duty period that ever shows up on the calendar.
03-05-2022, 04:50 PM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 2,418
Originally Posted by WearyEyed
So what I’m understanding is that in a typical month with 15 R-24 days that if it’s split into 3 blocks of 5 days of RSV that you’re really on call 18 days since you have to be available to respond 24 hours prior to day 1. No one on reserve should have to check their schedules prior to beginning their reserve block.
03-05-2022, 04:54 PM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 2,418
Originally Posted by opt0712
Definitely agree. It's unfortunate actually. Until that point, new hires read the Whitlow Letter and remember to wait until 0130 to acknowledge a crew notification on the first day of an RA stretch; 1330 for RB.
Still recommend answering the phone if it rings after Midnight if on RA
03-05-2022, 07:52 PM
#15
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,838
Originally Posted by WearyEyed
So what I’m understanding is that in a typical month with 15 R-24 days that if it’s split into 3 blocks of 5 days of RSV that you’re really on call 18 days since you have to be available to respond 24 hours prior to day 1. No one on reserve should have to check their schedules prior to beginning their reserve block.
Contactable and duty are two different things. No different than RA or RB. You are on duty 15 days.
03-05-2022, 08:17 PM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,099
RSV question
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Contactable and duty are two different things. No different than RA or RB. You are on duty 15 days.
Maybe it’s changed or I learned it wrong but being contactable equals being on duty…or at least isn’t rest.
03-06-2022, 01:40 AM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,820
Originally Posted by opt0712
Definitely agree. It's unfortunate actually. Until that point, new hires read the Whitlow Letter and remember to wait until 0130 to acknowledge a crew notification on the first day of an RA stretch; 1330 for RB.
03-06-2022, 04:06 AM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 2,418
Originally Posted by FXLAX
Maybe it’s changed or I learned it wrong but being contactable equals being on duty…or at least isn’t rest.
None of which is germane to the actual question about R24, since by definition, every R24 pilot will have a legal rest as well as a 1/7 prior to the initial reserve assignment.
03-06-2022, 04:10 AM
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 757 Capt
Posts: 2,418
Our Union has numerous articles discussing various Scheduling issues.
Among them is a discussion of Reserve and The Whitlow letter. There are pros, and cons, to acknowledging an assignment early if on RA or RB.
Not sure if this link will actually work, but if not, just login and go the Scheduling Committee and all of the articles will be available for perusal.
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/viewer.html?pdfurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffdx.alpa.org%2Fpor tals%2F26%2Fdocs%2FJuly2019_Whitlow%2520Letter%252 0Updated_Sched%2520Matters.pdf&clen=405118&chunk=t rue
Among them is a discussion of Reserve and The Whitlow letter. There are pros, and cons, to acknowledging an assignment early if on RA or RB.
Not sure if this link will actually work, but if not, just login and go the Scheduling Committee and all of the articles will be available for perusal.
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/viewer.html?pdfurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffdx.alpa.org%2Fpor tals%2F26%2Fdocs%2FJuly2019_Whitlow%2520Letter%252 0Updated_Sched%2520Matters.pdf&clen=405118&chunk=t rue
03-06-2022, 04:23 AM
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 670
Originally Posted by pinseeker
This is bad advice and doesn’t align with the contract or the Whitlow Letter. Call CE and find out.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
