skiK2

It’s embarrassing that most regionals have better reserve rules than this shop. RSV is a joke.

pinseeker

You do realize that the call out window/notification window starts at midnight and noon for RA and RB. Waiting until 0130 or 1330 doesn’t benefit you, you have already started your duty. Telling a new hire that they don’t have to do anything until 0130 could end up getting them in trouble because they might not know better.

opt0712

If/when next time you are on reserve, take a look at the released timestamp of someone/you who acknowledges an assignment early before an RA/RB stretch, vs acknowledging at midnight. Look and see what it does to your one in seven timing.

Again, just a technique and it's well within the contract to do. 0130 is your on duty time, so whether you get the call at midnight or after from Scheduling, you aren't doing anything outside the contract. I'm just talking about preservation of your one in seven.

Noworkallplay

Another ludicrous post with no factual basis. Lets just talk majors for the sake of simplicity. Ask about reserve rules at UA and AA. Ask how many days a month an AA pilot sits reserve. Ask buds at other majors if they can swap/drop reserve days. Ask buds at other majors if they can drop R days for trips or pick up flying on days off. If you are going to post at least come with some facts. Could we make some simple changes to make reserve better? Of course, but stating lies wont help our argument. If you claim reserve to be so bad why does it go so senior when we are properly staffed?

In the negotiations opener document I see “create a preferencing option for pilots on reserve (25.M). This would definitely be an improvement. We already have a “first fly” preference, but I would guess this would allow a reservist to preference a specific trip.

BlueMoon

We are confusing RA/RB and R24. They have different notification start times.

RA/RB the contract states you will be available for notification 1.5 hours prior to your RP. RA starts at 0130L. So you have to be available at for notification at 0000L (1200L for RB)

R24 you must be available 24 hours prior to start of your RP, R24 starts at 0130L. So you must be available for notification at 0130L the day prior.


Source 25.M.3.c of the contract.

If you are in RA you can NOT wait to 0130L to accept notification. You have to be available for notification at 0000L.

This all assumes company is using R-1.5. There are provisions in the contract for other callout lengths, but I haven’t seen them used in Memphis.

opt0712

Yes that's correct, and that's what I meant to type. This Taipei jail food is getting to me.

I have edited my posted above. Thank you.

pinseeker

Exactly. What happens when you acknowledge an assignment for a reserve trip before your call out period is they release you until the show time of your trip. This is bad because you never left rest, so your duty time starts at the show time of your trip instead of at the beginning of your call out period. So, a better suggestion for those on RA or RB would be to not acknowledge the notification and make CRS call you during your call out period. This is what the Whitlow Letter clarified.

BlueMoon

absolutely.

FXLAX

Yeah, just replying to no work that contactable doesn’t equal duty. You are either in rest or not. I believe that’s the way we should be looking at it.

FXLAX

You ask people to post facts but then try to limit the facts they can post by limiting it to majors. But that wasn’t his point. He made an assertion about regional reserve rules are better compared to ours. I took that to mean that they are so bad that not only are they worse than majors but also worse than regionals. Now I won’t make the same claim although I know that on balance the reserve rules were better at my previous regional than they are here. But I can only speak to here versus there, not all regionals.

For example, being able to preference reserve trips has been something my previous had for about 15 years. And they had most of the provisions we have here and more. Again, that’s just one regional and probably an outlier. But even an outlier at a regional having better work rules is something. In the end it’s all subjective anyway.