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Old 06-21-2022 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
Not to mention the rapid seniority progression on the 75, while those WB New Hires all sit in the bottom 10-20% and have guys senior to them stepping on their shoulders with every ITU monthly bid.
Not if you get the ‘bus!
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Old 06-21-2022 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Not if you get the ‘bus!
Yeah, but then you get weird like the guys you fly with. Before long you'll be wearing sweater vests and come home to a house full of cats. You'll be found mumbling to yourself in the corner of AOC during hub turns. Something about what they did with your stapler.
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Old 06-21-2022 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
Yeah, but then you get weird like the guys you fly with. Before long you'll be wearing sweater vests and come home to a house full of cats. You'll be found mumbling to yourself in the corner of AOC during hub turns. Something about what they did with your stapler.
I literally just spit some really delicious IPA out of my mouth reading this. Well done, TH. Well done. Omfg I’m dying thinking of myself in an Arnold Palmer inspired cardigan 😂🤣
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Old 06-21-2022 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 901Dude
yeah all that “widebody” money on first year pay lol. Negligible vs narrowbody. Plenty of dudes I know rolled to a widebody….that they wanted originally in BI…in less than a year. Combine that with an extra $3K/mo for potential passover pay, it’s not a bad option at all and one that shouldn’t be dismissed as the “worst advice”.
no no, he had a legit point. Passover pay was given away in the 2015 contract and there's a lot of 757 dudes that were hired in 2019, awarded 777 on 20-02 and still have yet to go to training, and probably won't for a while. They're making $162~$166/hr right now, while people hired into the airbus in the first half of 2021 are making $191/hr already. Our contract is kind of a joke in this regard.

Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
Not to mention the rapid seniority progression on the 75, while those WB New Hires all sit in the bottom 10-20% and have guys senior to them stepping on their shoulders with every ITU monthly bid.
Well, to be fair, there's super rapid seniority progression on the 'Bus and the MD as well, and very few people step on those guys' shoulders.
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Old 06-21-2022 | 07:52 PM
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no no, he had a legit point. Passover pay was given away in the 2015 contract and there's a lot of 757 dudes that were hired in 2019, awarded 777 on 20-02 and still have yet to go to training, and probably won't for a while. They're making $162~$166/hr right now, while people hired into the airbus in the first half of 2021 are making $191/hr already. Our contract is kind of a joke in this regard.



Well, to be fair, there's super rapid seniority progression on the 'Bus and the MD as well, and very few people step on those guys' shoulders.
You’re right…I misused the term passover pay. I had to dig back in the contract. Shoulda said “NEW HIRE JUNIOR ACTIVATION COMPENSATION”. I know a few guys making roughly $3K/mo until they go to widebody upgrade.
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Old 06-21-2022 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 901Dude
You’re right…I misused the term passover pay. I had to dig back in the contract. Shoulda said “NEW HIRE JUNIOR ACTIVATION COMPENSATION”. I know a few guys making roughly $3K/mo until they go to widebody upgrade.
It's very difficult to get NHJAC these days as the Bus and/or the MD in ANC usually go junior to 757.
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Old 07-01-2022 | 07:00 PM
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In regard to AM and PM hub turns on the 767 out of MEM, how is the verity of outstation airports during the trip?

For example, do you spend the week flying between MEM and the same outstation airport, or do you fly between MEM and different outstation airports?
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Old 07-01-2022 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dashgreat
In regard to AM and PM hub turns on the 767 out of MEM, how is the verity of outstation airports during the trip?

For example, do you spend the week flying between MEM and the same outstation airport, or do you fly between MEM and different outstation airports?
Ah yes that's called city purity - when you fly to the same city every night or day of the week.

Some fleets have more of it than others. You can bid other stuff though if you have a personality and groundhog-day flying isn't for you. If you're one of those weirdos who does like groundhog-day flying, just be aware that your airplane might fly to that city for one month but then might not the next month. Never chase an airplane or base here at FedEx because you're trying to get layovers in a certain city. It doesn't end well for most people that try.

Also MEM 767 is not a great first choice for new hires. It has one of the longest reserve times due to all the people who are senior to you transitioning in above you.
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Old 07-01-2022 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Ah yes that's called city purity - when you fly to the same city every night or day of the week.

Some fleets have more of it than others. You can bid other stuff though if you have a personality and groundhog-day flying isn't for you. If you're one of those weirdos who does like groundhog-day flying, just be aware that your airplane might fly to that city for one month but then might not the next month. Never chase an airplane or base here at FedEx because you're trying to get layovers in a certain city. It doesn't end well for most people that try.

Also MEM 767 is not a great first choice for new hires. It has one of the longest reserve times due to all the people who are senior to you transitioning in above you.
Thanks! What percentage of the hub turn trips would you say have city purity?
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Old 07-01-2022 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dashgreat
Thanks! What percentage of the hub turn trips would you say have city purity?
too hard to say, that’s a moving target. If you’re considering coming to (or not coming to) FedEx because of city purity you’re focusing on the wrong aspect(s) of this job.
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