TA???? Rumors???
08-14-2022, 05:59 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
The first extension (pre Covid) has yet to even go into effect correct? That happens next month, Sept 22? This extension tags onto the end of that extension. In 2024? That is my understanding.
Contract 2016 had amendable date of 1Sept21
Extension 2020 extended amendable to 1Sept23
Extension 2022 extended amendable to 1Sept25
Formal contract negotiations will now begin one year before amendable on 1Sept24
08-14-2022, 06:41 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
Are you kidding me? UPS’s Contract in 2016 leapfrogged FedEx in pay rates. Then in 2020, UPS pilots agreed to a 2-year extension just as COVID was hitting. Now another contract extension and pay increases.
Do you really think ALPA and FDX management are going to go higher than UPS?
Do you really think ALPA and FDX management are going to go higher than UPS?
08-14-2022, 07:02 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
The first extension (pre Covid) has yet to even go into effect correct? That happens next month, Sept 22? This extension tags onto the end of that extension. In 2024? That is my understanding.
It appears you are stating they have accomplished improvements that have already taken place pre Covid. It doesn’t appear that way from what I see.
I would also say the details of these agreements would have thrown the loud FDX posters on this forum into a hizzy. You included. Are you then going to be supportive of an agreement that has pay/retirement like this?
UPS CBA Extension - Top Pay Rates.jpg
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08-14-2022, 07:04 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by Riverside
4 percent 2023
3.25 percent 2024
3.25 2025
$4525 captain flat dollar 2024
$4650 flat dollar for 2025
Vebra increase from $1 to $2 per credit hr.
Originally Posted by opt0712
Doesn't even keep up with inflation.
UPS CBA Extension - Inflation.jpg
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08-15-2022, 01:52 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by TonyC
Even using very optimistic predictions for future inflation, the pay rates only peek (not peak, I mean they barely stick up above the plane) above the inflation slope briefly each year with the pay rates, then fall below inflation for the majority of the year.
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08-15-2022, 06:12 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by TonyC
Do you think we should settle for less?
Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
Do you think we should vote yes on something that isn't higher?
Originally Posted by Tuck
yes absolutely. There is zero chance anything gets out of MEC unless it’s highest pay rate (at time of course)
Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Is this a joke? Every FedEx pilot should EXPECT and REQUIRE the highest rates in the industry if they are considering voting yes. Anything less is an insult.
08-15-2022, 07:24 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
Selling something???? What are you talking about?
But if they were made by the union, it looks similar to a sales job I saw here at FedEx in 2015.
08-15-2022, 08:05 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by JohnnyViper;[url=tel:3477822
3477822[/url]]I guess I assumed that the UPS union put those charts out. If they did, it looks like they are trying to make it sound good. In hind sight, maybe Tony made them. If he did make them, then my comment doesn't make sense and I apologize for jamming up the internet with garbage.
But if they were made by the union, it looks similar to a sales job I saw here at FedEx in 2015.
But if they were made by the union, it looks similar to a sales job I saw here at FedEx in 2015.
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