Base transfers
12-20-2022 | 03:18 PM
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It was not my intention to post half truths or be misleading, nor divide civilian and military pilots. When it comes to quality of life issues, except for vacation, line bidding for the senior and our travel bank system (which is being attacked as I type), we lag behind other airlines and in some cases regional airlines. I don't mean to bring any disrespect to military folks, as I was one. Another posted stated, we don't know what we don't know. Also, pilots take pride in where they work so they are likely not going to tell you the bad. The problem with FedEx is that the bad is very bad.
I didn't do any math. I thought this was the statement from our negotiating committee folks describing the pension for someone getting hired today. For those retiring today, if you max the pension, the purchasing power of that money today is approximately 27% of when the A-fund was created.
1. Today, no way. I now understand what night flying has done to me physically. After a few years at a legacy I had never made over $100k. A bigger pay check and retirement is what lured me in.
2. The A-plan.
3. Things are different since I made the jump. The commuter situation at previous company was much more forgiving than FedEx's. Now that Delta is getting long callouts of 18-hours (unlike FedEx's joke of 24 hour callout which only apply to a few unlucky souls each month), that is a game changer. If I were a retired military pilot with a government pension in hand, I'd go to Delta, sit reserve in the comfort of my home working as little as possible. Pilots living on the west coast can sit long calls for east coast/NY airports while on reserve. One thing FedExers who commute don't talk about the commute is usually in the middle of the night or even a day before because of reserve rules. Yes you might catch some sleep on the airplane, but you're essentially up all night commuting. A good number of FedEx locations don't have electronic scanners. If jump seating, a security guard or FedEx ramper will rummage through your bags.
The elephant in the room for FedEx is Memphis. Most pilots are MEM based. On reserve, the reserve rules require you to be in Memphis. Memphis has fallen into lawlessness since the BLM riots. They lack hundreds of police officers. Vehicles in FedEx parking lots get broken into frequently. My second crash pad was burglarized twice before I moved out. It is a way of life here that you get numb too. A FedEx pilot was shot driving to work and everyone I know carriers a gun with them. This is why FedEx's policy of getting caught with a weapon is so dangerous to your career. You have to be 100% sure you don't have a weapon or restricted item in your bags. TN law now allows gun owners to drive to work armed and to keep the weapon secured in your vehicle while you're at work. FedEx hates that. FedEx legally fought the law but lost. FedEx wants you to come to work without the ability to protect yourself.
If anyone has any questions they can PM me.
I didn't do any math. I thought this was the statement from our negotiating committee folks describing the pension for someone getting hired today. For those retiring today, if you max the pension, the purchasing power of that money today is approximately 27% of when the A-fund was created.
1. Today, no way. I now understand what night flying has done to me physically. After a few years at a legacy I had never made over $100k. A bigger pay check and retirement is what lured me in.
2. The A-plan.
3. Things are different since I made the jump. The commuter situation at previous company was much more forgiving than FedEx's. Now that Delta is getting long callouts of 18-hours (unlike FedEx's joke of 24 hour callout which only apply to a few unlucky souls each month), that is a game changer. If I were a retired military pilot with a government pension in hand, I'd go to Delta, sit reserve in the comfort of my home working as little as possible. Pilots living on the west coast can sit long calls for east coast/NY airports while on reserve. One thing FedExers who commute don't talk about the commute is usually in the middle of the night or even a day before because of reserve rules. Yes you might catch some sleep on the airplane, but you're essentially up all night commuting. A good number of FedEx locations don't have electronic scanners. If jump seating, a security guard or FedEx ramper will rummage through your bags.
The elephant in the room for FedEx is Memphis. Most pilots are MEM based. On reserve, the reserve rules require you to be in Memphis. Memphis has fallen into lawlessness since the BLM riots. They lack hundreds of police officers. Vehicles in FedEx parking lots get broken into frequently. My second crash pad was burglarized twice before I moved out. It is a way of life here that you get numb too. A FedEx pilot was shot driving to work and everyone I know carriers a gun with them. This is why FedEx's policy of getting caught with a weapon is so dangerous to your career. You have to be 100% sure you don't have a weapon or restricted item in your bags. TN law now allows gun owners to drive to work armed and to keep the weapon secured in your vehicle while you're at work. FedEx hates that. FedEx legally fought the law but lost. FedEx wants you to come to work without the ability to protect yourself.
If anyone has any questions they can PM me.
We have many of those as well at Brown, it’s an uphill battle.
12-20-2022 | 03:43 PM
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It’s because people like Pinseeker, who think everything is great, why your chances of improvements diminish. Your long post was right on the money. The more people accept reality the better contract you will achieve!! Well stated.
We have many of those as well at Brown, it’s an uphill battle.
We have many of those as well at Brown, it’s an uphill battle.
Ok Brown Stain, where did I ever say everything was great. As a matter of fact, I have been criticized for being to hard on the MEC. So, why don't you go enjoy those UPS pay rates that are so far behind the Delta AIP. Why UPS pilot feel the need to insert themselves in the FedEx forum is beyond me, unless they wish they were here.
12-20-2022 | 08:24 PM
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Ok Brown Stain, where did I ever say everything was great. As a matter of fact, I have been criticized for being too hard on the MEC. So, why don't you go enjoy those UPS pay rates that are so far behind the Delta AIP. Why UPS pilot feel the need to insert themselves in the FedEx forum is beyond me, unless they wish they were here.
Wishing you guys the best…
12-21-2022 | 09:29 AM
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25 D.2g is how it happens. I have the 50 hour check to prove it. I’m just throwing it out there as a cautionary tale for junior guys as we go into leaner times. I’m also one of the guys caught up in the 777 training debacle. To respond to the original question on base transfers. If you get the plane you want, then a transfer could be a year or two. To make a lateral move from one bird to the other has taken me 5.5 years. YMMV.
12-21-2022 | 03:02 PM
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12-21-2022 | 04:07 PM
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It’s called being engaged, staying informed, exchanging ideas which might be beneficial to both groups. Now, have some of us posted less than positive info on this forum at times? Yes. But going forward our interaction should only be information to educate both groups so we can help each other out. One thing that is apparent: lots of disengaged people out there.
12-21-2022 | 04:58 PM
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It’s called being engaged, staying informed, exchanging ideas which might be beneficial to both groups. Now, have some of us posted less than positive info on this forum at times? Yes. But going forward our interaction should only be information to educate both groups so we can help each other out. One thing that is apparent: lots of disengaged people out there.
It seems like you and several others from UPS want to tell us how the company should be run. The shareholder meeting would be a better forum for that than the FedEx pilot forum. When I pointed out that we shouldn't be looking at the UPS pay rates as the high bar for negotiations, several UPS pilots tried to argue that they were industry leading and other pilot groups should only hope to match those rates. Now, if the Delta AIP makes it to a TA and gets approved, your current WB rate will be 56/hour below theirs. And just 2 years ago, those same airlines were paying pilots to stay home and taking payroll protection money. You agreed to a contract extension instead of trying to raise the bar because the teamster contract was more important to the company. Only time will tell if that was a good decision or not. Since you say that our contract has a direct effect on yours, why isn't that reciprocal. Why shouldn't we be mad at you for failing to significantly raise the bar?
Now, I am all for the exchanging of ideas, but instead of attempting to educate us on how poorly our company is run, why not identify areas of your contract that would benefit ours. Let's educate each other about the areas of our contracts that we like so that both groups can improve their contract.
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