Exactly, and WHEN the furloughs start to hasten again because of the deepening recession the legacy folks will be beating down our doors…again.

 

There’s the typical arrogance that has been missing from this thread! Thanks for stopping by to let us know we don’t furlough so who cares about the rest. Oh, and NO PAX!!!!

There are folks who got hired here who didn’t have FedEx as a target airline, they just happened to get called during Covid when there was no movement in the industry. So even if research was done, what was it in comparison to? Legacies that furloughed?

The issue isn’t civilian versus military. The issue is the lack of diversity at the airline (WOKE ALERTTTT!!). Mil guys/gals are fantastic, happy to fly with them, but too much of one thing isn’t always good and there’s plenty of research to support that. We are scared of change here and it’s tough to get the needle to move on quite a bit though.

 

Two of the biggest issues I've found include lack of awareness when it comes to industry standard and lack of understanding of our own contractual language. After the first system bid conducted under the CBA2015 language (System Bid 18-01) I discovered that my block rep, the ALPA legal team, and even those who negotiated Section 24 did not fully understand how it worked. Original response to my issues included, "that's not how it works." Later those responses changed to, "well that's the language in the contract now." Unless you are directly impacted no one seems to care, it didn't make ALPA's list for CBA2021 despite a grievance having to be filed on behalf of many FO's. Section 24 is the most restrictive of its kind in the industry and nothing has been done to correct the mistake of allowing it into CBA2015. As to other QOL issues, most potential new hires do not ask what things like reserve callout times because there is a false assumption that an airline like Purple would have better work rules than the regional airline industry and yet here we are and there is little appetite to attempt an improvement of these sections.

Some of the items complained about by Purple pilots surrounding hours of service (to include reserve call out time which is a duty day issue overall) were moved along by Part 117 rest rules for the pax carriers. These improvements took very little bargaining capital for ALPA.

 

My sentiments exactly

 

Naw, they’ll go to Atlas because it’s 70% of your job but yet 100% quicker and easier to get hired there.

 

It was not my intention to post half truths or be misleading, nor divide civilian and military pilots. When it comes to quality of life issues, except for vacation, line bidding for the senior and our travel bank system (which is being attacked as I type), we lag behind other airlines and in some cases regional airlines. I don't mean to bring any disrespect to military folks, as I was one. Another posted stated, we don't know what we don't know. Also, pilots take pride in where they work so they are likely not going to tell you the bad. The problem with FedEx is that the bad is very bad.

I didn't do any math. I thought this was the statement from our negotiating committee folks describing the pension for someone getting hired today. For those retiring today, if you max the pension, the purchasing power of that money today is approximately 27% of when the A-fund was created.

1. Today, no way. I now understand what night flying has done to me physically. After a few years at a legacy I had never made over $100k. A bigger pay check and retirement is what lured me in.

2. The A-plan.

3. Things are different since I made the jump. The commuter situation at previous company was much more forgiving than FedEx's. Now that Delta is getting long callouts of 18-hours (unlike FedEx's joke of 24 hour callout which only apply to a few unlucky souls each month), that is a game changer. If I were a retired military pilot with a government pension in hand, I'd go to Delta, sit reserve in the comfort of my home working as little as possible. Pilots living on the west coast can sit long calls for east coast/NY airports while on reserve. One thing FedExers who commute don't talk about the commute is usually in the middle of the night or even a day before because of reserve rules. Yes you might catch some sleep on the airplane, but you're essentially up all night commuting. A good number of FedEx locations don't have electronic scanners. If jump seating, a security guard or FedEx ramper will rummage through your bags.

The elephant in the room for FedEx is Memphis. Most pilots are MEM based. On reserve, the reserve rules require you to be in Memphis. Memphis has fallen into lawlessness since the BLM riots. They lack hundreds of police officers. Vehicles in FedEx parking lots get broken into frequently. My second crash pad was burglarized twice before I moved out. It is a way of life here that you get numb too. A FedEx pilot was shot driving to work and everyone I know carriers a gun with them. This is why FedEx's policy of getting caught with a weapon is so dangerous to your career. You have to be 100% sure you don't have a weapon or restricted item in your bags. TN law now allows gun owners to drive to work armed and to keep the weapon secured in your vehicle while you're at work. FedEx hates that. FedEx legally fought the law but lost. FedEx wants you to come to work without the ability to protect yourself.

If anyone has any questions they can PM me.

 

This is all true!

 

Delta AIP document say “18 hour callout for all long call reserve” not for ALL reserves. Have you seen the actual TA language? We currently have 24 hour callout for long call. How much do you want to bet they will have conversion language like we have?

 

Dude can you stop justifying everything dang thing. The point is our system is horrible, PERIOD!!!!!! R24 means hotel standby in Memphis that’s it. It would work great if you actually got 24 hour call out to start an actual trip. Instead union didn’t pay attention to the language and it 24hr call out for an assignment which HTSBY is considered an assignment in the company’s eye. Stop you BS Plzzzzzzzzzzz

 

I’ll bite since I’m familiar with the Delta current contract. Current contract is all RSV pilots are on long call (12 hours) and can only be converted 6 times a month to short call. With a “no concessions” AIP one would assume all pilots will be on long call (18 hours) on the new contract and can only be converted to short call 6 times a month. Delta probably has the best RSV in the industry.

- Just a FedEx hopeful