Originally Posted by nunyabiz

I’m not ruling out making the jump. Dusting off the ol resume and updating the logbook. It used to be that there were a fair number of folks from Legacy airlines coming to FedEx. That trend may be reversing if a bunch of stuff isn’t fixed in our contract.




Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a huge proportion of folks who blindly believe we have the best of everything. They fail to accept that other places have it better than we do and demand that we make changes to come up to industry standard. I agree with you on the items we have that are better. Those things shouldn’t be overlooked but far too many people use that fact to dismiss the other areas where we lag so far behind.

Us failing to demand significant QOL improvements will be our demise. We went after pay and retirement and it doesn’t even seem like that is going to impress anyone given some of the other numbers already agreed to at other places.


Bottom line, new folks have choices right now. That hiring pool they talk about may drain faster than they think as pilots decide to take or stay at the Legacy job they already have. Purple isn’t the slam dunk choice any more. Sadly, I don’t think management cares.

Originally Posted by nunyabiz

I’m not ruling out making the jump. Dusting off the ol resume and updating the logbook. It used to be that there were a fair number of folks from Legacy airlines coming to FedEx. That trend may be reversing if a bunch of stuff isn’t fixed in our contract.




Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a huge proportion of folks who blindly believe we have the best of everything. They fail to accept that other places have it better than we do and demand that we make changes to come up to industry standard. I agree with you on the items we have that are better. Those things shouldn’t be overlooked but far too many people use that fact to dismiss the other areas where we lag so far behind.

Originally Posted by Jamo

So many of our company cheerleaders have never experienced another airline prior to FX. But somehow they know we have it the best. In the last few years, we are the bottom feeders in contract comparison. If you have other options, go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by threeighteen

There's a lot of other areas of our contract that lag behind the legacies in a massive way and unfortunately our pilot group is not well educated on that. A lot of guys here think we have the best of everything because they haven't been paying attention to what everyone else has been gaining in their contracts. We do have some great nuggets like having a real retirement plan plus a B fund (which is capped pretty low btw), good vacation, no PBS, and a few other things, but as far as everything else goes, we're lagging pretty hard and our current negotiators aren't even asking for QOL right now. Just $$$ and retirement.

Originally Posted by Jamo

So many of our company cheerleaders have never experienced another airline prior to FX. But somehow they know we have it the best. In the last few years, we are the bottom feeders in contract comparison. If you have other options, go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by ClncClarence

This - IMO - is the biggest problem. Way too many folks here that came straight outta the sandbox and just don’t know what they don’t know. As it sits right now, this is FAR from the best place to be. We can absolutely make it better but it’s gonna take a fight because management has shown they aren’t willing to give us what we deserve.

Originally Posted by pinseeker

Aren't we blessed that you all chose to come to FedEx after doing your research and knowing that we lag far behind other airlines with the goal of saving us uneducated pilots that came from the sandbox from ourselves.

Originally Posted by ClncClarence

Frankly - yes, you are.

The resistance to change here is mind-boggling. Progress happens at a snails pace. We have officially not required a degree to get a job here since May 2022 but for some reason we still haven’t been able to update the application website to reflect that? Unreal.