Is FDX the place to be?
12-15-2022 | 07:34 AM
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Were you in the military, or are you just making assumptions? IME, this is nothing like the military. Now, go make some coffee lieutenant (It's a joke)!
12-15-2022 | 07:35 AM
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Maybe? Your anecdotal story doesn’t mean anything. At my “FAA mandatory CLM class” 
, it was briefed by the instructors that FedEx has the least fatigue calls in the industry.
The intent of the briefing was to show that we as a pilot group are knowingly signing the FPR and flying fatigued nor are we telling our fellow crew members. If you’ve been around a while that’s the Blue Threat (LOL … sigh).
, it was briefed by the instructors that FedEx has the least fatigue calls in the industry.The intent of the briefing was to show that we as a pilot group are knowingly signing the FPR and flying fatigued nor are we telling our fellow crew members. If you’ve been around a while that’s the Blue Threat (LOL … sigh).
Ok, Ok, let's settle this once and for all, what does the crew bus driver say?
12-15-2022 | 02:03 PM
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12-15-2022 | 05:47 PM
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Why do some try to make this a mil vs civ thing. There are plusses and minuses to both. Comparing going on strike to being shot at? Yeah, that's a fair comparison. I could list the different "bad" behaviors I have seen and whether the pilot was mil or civ, and the list would probably be pretty even. So, let's not play that game.
IME, I see a lot of the same behavior from both groups, not one more than the other. Maybe it starts during your 14+ months of probation. I have seen countless new hires, both mil and civ, who are afraid to call in fatigued, or tell CRS that what they are trying to do to them violates the contract, or even worse, the FAR's. They say they just want to keep their head low so they don't get fired. IMO, we would be better served if we got rid of probation, or, all new hires were immediately union members who are afforded the same protections on day 1 as a pilot who has been here 25 or more years.
IME, I see a lot of the same behavior from both groups, not one more than the other. Maybe it starts during your 14+ months of probation. I have seen countless new hires, both mil and civ, who are afraid to call in fatigued, or tell CRS that what they are trying to do to them violates the contract, or even worse, the FAR's. They say they just want to keep their head low so they don't get fired. IMO, we would be better served if we got rid of probation, or, all new hires were immediately union members who are afforded the same protections on day 1 as a pilot who has been here 25 or more years.
12-15-2022 | 08:31 PM
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BINGO! I love the military pilots I fly with. Just as capable flying wise…and then some most of the time. But that’s not we’re talking about. I was way more stressed as a pilot at the regionals because sometimes it was truly single pilot with the inexperience of our new hires. Add that to an ORD approach in snow storm to the PAX term (ATC, “Why are you stopping?!!!” Pax guys will understand this) Unfortunately, there is a lack of understanding that they/military (not all of course) are no longer under the system of kissing the Colonels/management’s ass for a promotion. WE ARE SENIORITY BASED PEOPLE! Even if you’re a ‘horrible’ pilot that calls in sick to spend time with your family…you can still upgrade when your number is called. Live your best life. You’ve already given more than you will ever get back. Stop sacrificing your family so some VP can get a bonus this year. But then again, I never went to an academy or got my masters or flew F15’s, so this might all be garbage advise.
12-16-2022 | 04:09 AM
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Most military pilots are coming to FedEx??? Where do you get that? How do you know where most military pilots go? Do you have numbers to back up that statement? So, if 3000 pilots leave the military this year, 1500+ of them are coming to FedEx?
You aren't a FedEx pilot, and I doubt you were in the military either if you say that military pilots didn't have to deal with adversarial management. Maybe you're not a pilot at all and just like to stir up dust on these boards with your conspiracy theories.
12-16-2022 | 05:18 AM
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BINGO! I love the military pilots I fly with. Just as capable flying wise…and then some most of the time. But that’s not we’re talking about. I was way more stressed as a pilot at the regionals because sometimes it was truly single pilot with the inexperience of our new hires. But then again, I never went to an academy or got my masters or flew F15’s, so this might all be garbage advise.
12-16-2022 | 07:00 AM
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Most military pilots are coming to FedEx??? Where do you get that? How do you know where most military pilots go? Do you have numbers to back up that statement? So, if 3000 pilots leave the military this year, 1500+ of them are coming to FedEx?
You aren't a FedEx pilot, and I doubt you were in the military either if you say that military pilots didn't have to deal with adversarial management. Maybe you're not a pilot at all and just like to stir up dust on these boards with your conspiracy theories.
You aren't a FedEx pilot, and I doubt you were in the military either if you say that military pilots didn't have to deal with adversarial management. Maybe you're not a pilot at all and just like to stir up dust on these boards with your conspiracy theories.
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