What is an acceptable contract?
12-18-2022 | 03:00 PM
#41
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Hi, UA. You're right, It's not but had we gone with one of the company's offer that last time it would had guaranteed that anyone hired after date of signing would not have a pension. So, for all of you hired after the the last CBA was signed,...you're welcome.
Keep the faith,
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Keep the faith,
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12-18-2022 | 06:24 PM
#42
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2015 TA passed ~56%. How many “yes” votes have buyer’s remorse due to sales job?
12-18-2022 | 06:46 PM
#43
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How has this DAL contract changed everything for us? What are you so enthused about with in the DAL contract? A pay rate? A few bullet points that we have yet to see language on? Have you educated yourself on DAL's sick system and how it works? How about Vacation, Retirement, Min daily pay, Monthly Guarantee, Revision and Extension Pay, Block Override and International Override? How many DAL pilots are on those wide-body rates? How much of their career is on those rates?
I can clearly see many have G Locked on a pay rate. If we are just chasing a pay rate then are we willing to take the rest of DL's contract? We are paid based upon a pay rate multiplied by numerous other work-rules and factors. Lets not forget those ALL IMPORTANT underlying factors as I mentioned above.
I have another novel idea, although not popular on the inter-web complaint boards. Lets let the full language come out. Lets actually see the language. Then lets look at what we already have that far exceeds many of the bullets on the AIP document. It will be surprising to some, but many areas we are far superior on currently.
NoWork claims he doesn't have an office on Kirby, but I'll bet he knows his way around the place.
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12-18-2022 | 07:26 PM
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What exactly does "hold the line" mean in your eyes? I have seen almost zero pilots holding any line whatsoever. So if NMB doesn't want to release us, what would make the company give in to what you want?
12-19-2022 | 06:25 AM
#45
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Exactly. If anyone had any doubts about this guy being a management operative, this resolves it. He’s conspicuously trying to lower expectations for widebody captain rates by reasoning that Delta has a comparatively low percentage of pilots flying wide body aircraft. What a tool.
12-19-2022 | 06:30 AM
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12-19-2022 | 06:42 AM
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What is an acceptable contract?
More Pay, More Retirement Benefits-A plan & B plan.
Better work rules.
Hopefully the Deviation debacle regarding our Previous NC failure to even ask 1 fricken question about Lie Flat\DB funding is fixed.
NO Changes to Vacation rules other than an improvement (or creation of yearly PTO)
More Pay, More Retirement Benefits-A plan & B plan.
Better work rules.
Hopefully the Deviation debacle regarding our Previous NC failure to even ask 1 fricken question about Lie Flat\DB funding is fixed.
NO Changes to Vacation rules other than an improvement (or creation of yearly PTO)
12-19-2022 | 09:37 AM
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12-19-2022 | 09:51 AM
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The failures of the union to keep increasing the A plan are not the failures of the old guys.
Don't blame me, I voted no!
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