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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
(Post 3611242)
What did the negotiation notes say?
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Originally Posted by KODI3
(Post 3610940)
How does the realignment bid work?
Here's how a System Bid works. For each crew position (Rank/Base ... for example CA 777 MEM), the company shall publish: 1. Current Staffing Level 2. Minimum Staffing Level (arbitrary number set by Flight Ops) 3. The Maximum Staffing Level (arbitrary number set by Flight Ops) The minimum and maximum number can be the same as seen on previous bids. They also shall publish: 4. Currently awarded/assigned each crew position 5. Currently activated in each crew position 6. Dates and times of which the System bid closes. 7. To the extent known .. blah blah blah ... when training .. blah blah ... is expected to begin ... blah blah and the training footprint ... blah blah and training throughput by crew position. 8. Required certificates for each crew position 9. Additional information as appropriate. So, how does it work? The bid is processed in system-wide seniority order (from the #1 pilot down to the 6,xxx pilot). STEP ONE: (the Good): For each crew position for which the Dynamic Staffing Level is LESS THAN the Minimum Staffing Level, a pilot will be awarded/assigned such crew position according to his standing bid. What does that mean? If the #1 pilot who is a CA 777 MEM pilot enters CA 767 MEM (the crew position) as the standing bid, and the 767 Dynamic Staffing Level is less than Minimum Staffing Level, then the #1 pilot is awarded CA 767 MEM and the Dynamic Staffing Level for 767 CA MEM increases by one number (total of all the pilots in category plus the new CA). If the pilot entered CA 777 MEM on the Standing Bid, the pilot remains in the crew position (assuming the crew position wasn't subject to below). STEP TWO: (the Weird) For each crew position for which the Dynamic Staffing Level is EQUAL TO or GREATER THAN the Minimum Staffing Level AND LESS THAN the Maximum Staffing Level, a pilot will be awarded such crew position according to his standing bid, PROVIDED THAT: A. The pilot's currently awarded/assigned crew position is over-staffed (Dynamic > Maximum); AND B. The pilot is senior to the most junior pilot (in the "TO" crew position) not subject to assignment. What the heck does that mean? If the #1 pilot who is a 777 CA MEM enters 767 CA MEM on the standing bid, and the 767 CA MEM Dynamic Staffing Level is => than the Minimum Staffing Level and < Maximum, the 777 CA MEM pilot can only be awarded the CA 767 MEM if the 777 CA MEM category is over-staffed and the 777 CA MEM pilot is senior to the most junior 777 CA MEM pilot. This is called a "Stand In Bid". In other words, junior pilots will be removed from the over-staffed category and sent elsewhere; however, a pilot senior to the junior pilot can elect to move out of a crew position for said junior pilot. In this situation, the 777 CA MEM Dynamic Staffing number is reduced by one number and the 767 CA MEM Dynamic Staffing number is increased by one. STEP THREE: (the Bad): For each crew position for which the Dynamic Staffing Level is GREATER THAN or EQUAL to the Maximum Staffing Level (over-staffed) a pilot will be awarded as provided in Situation B, or awarded/assigned as provided in Situation A, such crew position, provided the pilot is: Situation A: Subject to assignment from his currently awarded/assigned crew position, and senior to the most junior pilot (in the "TO" position) not subject to assignment; OR Situation B: Senior to a pilot in his currently awarded/assigned crew position who: #1 is imminently subject to assignment, and #2 has the seniority necessary to hold the ("TO") crew position. Situation B is the same thing as above, shall be considered a Stand In Bid award. Ok. ... what the heck does that mean? If the crew position is over-staffed (Dynamic >= Maximum Staffing Level), a pilot subject to removal from the current crew position will be awarded/assigned a new crew position to which the pilot is senior to the most junior pilot in the new crew position (Situation A: AKA the ole bump and flush), OR, a senior pilot can elect to move out of the current crew position that is over-staffed so that a junior pilot might remain in the current crew position and the senior pilot goes to a new crew position (Situation B: AKA the Stand In Bid Award) With me? Now it gets better. STEP FOUR: (the Ugly): If a pilot who is subject to assignment, and who is not assigned in accordance with Steps 1,2, or 3, will be assigned to a different crew position as follows: Case A: If the pilot hasn't listed a crew position on the Standing Bid that the pilot could hold in Step 3 Situation A, the pilot will be assigned to the US based crew position with the highest pay rate that the pilot's seniority can hold, and in the crew position which would give the pilot the highest relative seniority from among all those crew positions whose Dynamic Staffing is LESS THAN the Maximum Staffing Level. Case B:If the pilot cannot hold any crew position as provided in Step Four Case A, the pilot will be assigned to the most junior held US based crew position regardless of the Maximum Staffing Level. STEP FIVE: (NEW HIRES): For any crew position that has LESS THAN the Minimum Staffing Level after processing the System Bid, the company may hire a pilot(s) up to the Minimum Staffing Level. STEP SIX: (the YGTBSM): Assignment Right of Return (ARR) ... going to paraphrase this a lot. If you are moved to a new crew position, you have up to 18 months to bid back into the previous crew position to which you were removed from. Anyone with ARR rights go first to the crew position before anyone else in Step 1 provided the Dynamic Staffing Level is LESS THAN the Maximum Staffing Level. STEP SEVEN: (FDA Assignments) Read the CBA for yourself! I'm brain dead. There's also bid restrictions/seat restrictions which would prevent a pilot from bidding. See the CBA. This is my opinion on how this works. Contact FDX ALPA's contract enforcement for specific questions because I could be very wrong in my explanation. It is worth what you paid for. |
Originally Posted by skiK2
(Post 3611181)
-losing.
ps. When the contract is up for vote, No doesn’t start with a Y. Make sure to click on the section that says No and not yes. |
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Originally Posted by magic rat
(Post 3611166)
Wow!!! Outlook for us Express peeps don’t look good…buckle up!
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
(Post 3611026)
You can bid to relieve excess and change fleets/bases, if a senior pilot bids to relieve then a junior pilot may not get bumped. Bidding to relieve also may entitle you a move package to base, I would have to dive into the contract to remember all the details.
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Originally Posted by NoHaz
(Post 3611629)
Not the case anymore. They got rid of the excess process and the new process allows them to peel from the bottom. The former bid to relieve process always prevented them from taking a few off the bottom in HKG so they could decrease the passover pay numbers. Evertime they excessed a few seats in HKG the top guys would bid to relieve to score the house hunting and other benefits in the package.
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Originally Posted by NoHaz
(Post 3611629)
Not the case anymore. They got rid of the excess process and the new process allows them to peel from the bottom. The former bid to relieve process always prevented them from taking a few off the bottom in HKG so they could decrease the passover pay numbers. Evertime they excessed a few seats in HKG the top guys would bid to relieve to score the house hunting and other benefits in the package.
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Originally Posted by P8Bubba
(Post 3611664)
so in this case is every seat open for anyone not seat locked? And then if you are forced out of your current seat it goes down your bid preferences until you land somewhere your seniority can hold?
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Along these lines, does a differences bid (757-to-767; 2-day transition) count for a seat lock? It is it just ITU training (3ish month training)?
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