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Old 06-12-2023 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rum Runner
And it's worse than I could have ever imagined.

There are no scope improvements. Actual Scope concessions.
The pay rates are not industry leading, not even close.
The signing bonus is an insult.
R-24 to R-16.
40% of LCA into student lines, and eligible for student makeup, at wait for it, 125%!
Added a line in there.

Unfortunately not worse than I imagined, exactly like I imagined - full of concessions.

I could see this POS coming from a mile away just from the NC's behavior, his reluctance to address rumors properly, and his presentations.

Get ready for the full-on Sales Job... I mean, Road Shows.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Added a line in there.

Unfortunately not worse than I imagined, exactly like I imagined - full of concessions.

I could see this POS coming from a mile away just from the NC's behavior, his reluctance to address rumors properly, and his presentations.

Get ready for the full-on Sales Job... I mean, Road Shows.
I found ZERO QOL improvements. Unless you count a couple convenience items with expense reports….
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
remember when pax carriers used to argue for pay rates at cargo carriers. What happened here?
The total suckers who turned down a big 3 job for this shop have to be absolutely SICK to their stomachs right now. What a terrible mistake.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:10 PM
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Wow, that was way worse than I expected and my expectations were already low.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTank
I found ZERO QOL improvements. Unless you count a couple convenience items with expense reports….
What is going on here? How is this even possible after the revenues we have helped produce for this company??? After 2+ years at the table this is what we agree to!?!?

Beyond disappointing.

Now we understand why there were no TA bullet points.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Single Seat
Wow, that was way worse than I expected and my expectations were already low.
Turns out all the rumors were true.. Can’t wait for NoWork/OnceGood to try and sell this!

Easy NO. What a waste of 2 years!
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:24 PM
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Wow, we’ve been completely sold out by those we were supposed to represent us…. all for a paltry pension increase. Almost makes me embarrassed for how hard we worked during covid.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:30 PM
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$235K A-plan after 25 years? 2.2% multiplier.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:34 PM
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YGTBFSM!!!! Over 2 years waiting for this???

COVID, hotel lockups, mandatory nasal swabs from Communists, trip revisions, paying own hotels, effed up wet lease payments, record profits, $5B stock buy-back, The list goes on and on and on.

How is getting text messages from CRS a WIN for this CBA!? Was that negotiated? Many of the "Better" column items are a joke or resemble concessions! Unfortunately, many of the QOL loss rumors were true. Unbelieveable!!!

I know where I stand. FUPM, SCOPE, No Concessions.
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Old 06-12-2023 | 01:43 PM
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This is an egregious failure. Minimal recovery of retirement that was already falling WAAAAAY behind, substandard pay raises, retro that continues to encourage future a$$ dragging, and scope concessions.

Couple that with a shrinking airline and minimum BLGs for the foreseeable future and we're going to make the same or less than on the current contract.

This vote needs to send a message to all involved.
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