Fear Tactics
06-26-2023 | 03:14 PM
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06-27-2023 | 05:27 AM
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06-27-2023 | 10:28 PM
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Imagine that, a Delta guy can see this TA clearly for what it is, while he's looking in from the outside. Goes hand in hand with Tony C's excellent summary of our concession-filled TA.
We need to say enough to the company. Enough of our quality of life sliding downhill into the toilet every contract. Enough crying poor, we can't pay you, after having broken profitability records in the last 5 years. Didn't they say we had saved the world? The company kept saying that to us, and the union said it too. (I thought it was patting ourselves just a little too much on the back, but OK).
So, this TA is what management and our union think is good enough after we "saved the world"? The answer is no. They are just hoping we fall for this Unsat first try.
06-28-2023 | 06:21 AM
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06-28-2023 | 06:27 AM
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If you've been to any of the roadshows, you'd know that there is time for questions at the end. I went to the first one and it was 6 hours! Lots of questions were asked at the end, and we were given our chance to be unfiltered and face to face. If you can't spare 4-6 hours of your day to at least gather what our elected reps voted on, then you don't have much clout to be complaining here. Yea, family obligations, don't live in Memphis, vacation, etc. Yea we get it, people will make all the excuses to not attend one in person. I took time away from my family, because it affected our future. But don't complain when you feel like you aren't being heard, when the opportunity is there.
06-28-2023 | 06:57 AM
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So you think our 757 pay rates look good when compared to a Delta 717 … are you kidding me???
How about this:
2026:
Fedex 757 12 year Capt - $363/Hr
Delta 757 12 year Capt - $396/Hr
$33/hr difference … it’s pathetic and embarrassing that our union leadership (Minus TC) believe this is acceptable.
How about this:
2026:
Fedex 757 12 year Capt - $363/Hr
Delta 757 12 year Capt - $396/Hr
$33/hr difference … it’s pathetic and embarrassing that our union leadership (Minus TC) believe this is acceptable.
2025
FedEx 12 Year Capt 409.76
Delta 12 Year Capt 381.66
UPS 15 Year Capt 401.01
$18/hr more than Delta and almost $10 more than UPS. And this is around half of our pilots on the 763/A300. In this category, FedEx will have the highest pay rate in the industry.
Yes I know we can splice numbers to demonstrate our position. I believe the 717 to 757 and then comparing to Mesa is lacking in context. Mesa 3 has 737s and I don't think FedEx management wants to put their products and service guarantees in the hands of Mesa or even some of the ACMI carriers.
06-28-2023 | 07:28 AM
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If you've been to any of the roadshows, you'd know that there is time for questions at the end. I went to the first one and it was 6 hours! Lots of questions were asked at the end, and we were given our chance to be unfiltered and face to face. If you can't spare 4-6 hours of your day to at least gather what our elected reps voted on, then you don't have much clout to be complaining here. Yea, family obligations, don't live in Memphis, vacation, etc. Yea we get it, people will make all the excuses to not attend one in person. I took time away from my family, because it affected our future. But don't complain when you feel like you aren't being heard, when the opportunity is there.
There is not enough lipstick on this planet to make this Pig 🐷 look like a princess 👸
06-28-2023 | 07:34 AM
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Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but it seems from the conversations while transiting MEM, that this TA is going to fall hard.
06-28-2023 | 07:40 AM
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….Who did not offer any unique insights or wisdom…
I don’t like this TA but his analysis had enough errors or misunderstandings that it undermines any of his valid points. This TA undersells itself without Mr. I’m a cool all knowing 8 year Delta pilot.
I don’t like this TA but his analysis had enough errors or misunderstandings that it undermines any of his valid points. This TA undersells itself without Mr. I’m a cool all knowing 8 year Delta pilot.
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