Well, at least you got the spelling right this time. Progress. If you read the language, it is a calendar year event. In the event the Company fails to bring on as many aircraft as they wet leased, a payment is assessed. At the beginning of the next calendar year, the whole thing starts over. Hard to justify bringing on aircraft if you are furloughing, and no aircraft means no wet leases. The fact that ALPO can't understand that, and won't defend it, is beside the point. Here is a piece of advice....stop listening to the people who haven't been right yet and just read this stuff yourself. Sound out the big words if you start having trouble. If that doesn't help, message me the part you can't get through and I will help you out. Your MEC is lying to you. You are yelling at the wrong people.

 

Why is it that you, and the idiots at the MEC, appear to think the purpose of scope is to collect penalty checks and not protect jobs. The actual answer to Section 1 is to re-write it so that it is both easy to understand, especially for the grammatically challenged, and strong in its protection of our jobs. "BUT, THERE'S A PENALTY!" should not be our war cry.

 

Let's vote already!!!

Hard NO

 

I think we've established pretty clearly now that the wet lease payment scheme is pretty much inconsequential to the company, the association, and the crew force. In practice it hasn't particularly dissuaded the company from anything and the payments to the crew force are such a pittance that it doesn't move the needle.

A little wet leasing during Dec is understandable. Anything else needs to be a straight no-go. There's just nothing to talk about beyond this.

In 20 years I've had one wet lease payment that I could even recognize as anything in my paycheck. It's useless.

 

A good synopsis of this mess...
https://pilotmathtreasurebath.com/20...ol-retirement/

 

hope this is on jetflyers.

hope every pilot on property reads this, because this dude nailed it!

print off a copy, and make it part of the debrief, the guys on the bus can wait.

copy the link, and send it to your block rep.

 

So nothing of substance and yet just more fear based on ,,,,,? Hmm. Lots of freight carriers out there just waiting to fly FedEx freight, they are....? Um who? Yep, great business model. Have 3-4 subcontractors with all different pilot groups all in contract negotiations at different times. So what if the packages don't arrive on time or at all, whats brand name got to do with it?

 

An excellent synopsis of our current situation. I've been repeating much of the same stuff for nearly two years. There's not a single solitary good reason to vote yes for this.

His assessment of the public statements made from the C-suite are spot on. HIs assessment of the economic environment is also something I agree with and have stated here.

If Jerome hadn't taken the punchbowl away we wouldn't even be hinting at recession. US has the best economic fundamentals on the planet. Fedex Customers have stockpiles of inventory due to covid supply chain congestion. They will work through them and volumes will return. Fedex intends to have a much leaner operation when they do.

But here we are scared pilots about to be willing to give away their labor in the best market for pilot labor in a generation. The fact that some of you come on this board and repeatedly support provisions that are clearly concessionary givaways and then have the audacity to argue with people about it is mind numbing. There's nothing wrong with APC or social media. The problem is it prevents your leadership from controlling the message and the information. That's what the roadshows are for. They want to convince you that their option is THE option. Anything else would be unconscionable or not worth the effort.

It is them not the dissenters on APC and Jetflyers that are the problem. You should heed the warnings. This is an absolute replay of 2015. Go back and read the threads. You'll see the same players making the same arguments. 53%-47% thats what that got us. I've been doing what I can to alert and persuade. Ultimately its up to US. But I don't think we should settle for less because Pat May says so.

 

Guess you've never heard of DHL? Just because it may not work don't mean they aint gonna try. Plenty of bad ideas get picked up by management teams who think those failures were based on execution.

I've said it before if you're not outraged what will it take and if you're not concerned you're simply not paying enough attention.

Fear is not real. It is an emotional response to perceived danger. But there is danger and in the dark there be dragons. Prudence says heed the warnings.

 

Nah bro, you want your A fund bump, and nothing else matters.

you want fear, however, go watch the latest MEC video they just released, if you don’t vote yes, the sky will fall. fear, fear, and more fear. this is what the company negotiating team saw every time they sat across the table from these clowns. I’d rather wait however long it takes to keep intact certain provisions, number one being scope, than acquiesce to the will of the company dead set on yes, wet-leasing purple pilots out of jobs. you saw the TA for what it is, and now you’re backpedaling. because I’m right, huh? if this gets voted down, your out on age, no bump for you!