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plzdontfireme 12-29-2023 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by CactusMan (Post 3742890)
Correct. If PM’s only failure was a result of poor MEC guidance he’d have more supporters.

go re-read his apology email. Even he acknowledges the one-sided sales pitch and communication failures. Paired with his unacknowledged condescension and threats to the crew force, his failures extend far beyond a lack of MEC control.

I didn't see an email where he actually apologized for what he did. What day did that come out?

NotMrNiceGuy 12-29-2023 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by plzdontfireme (Post 3743001)
I didn't see an email where he actually apologized for what he did. What day did that come out?

November 15

plzdontfireme 12-29-2023 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy (Post 3743011)
November 15

Are you referring to "Open Letter to the FDX MEC" that was sent on November 15? Because I'm reading that again now, and it's most definitely NOT an apology nor anything close.

NotMrNiceGuy 12-29-2023 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by plzdontfireme (Post 3743064)
Are you referring to "Open Letter to the FDX MEC" that was sent on November 15? Because I'm reading that again now, and it's most definitely NOT an apology nor anything close.

Yeah. It wasn’t an apology. But I believe that is the letter that was being referenced.

CactusMan 12-29-2023 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by plzdontfireme (Post 3743064)
Are you referring to "Open Letter to the FDX MEC" that was sent on November 15? Because I'm reading that again now, and it's most definitely NOT an apology nor anything close.

He acknowledges the concerns about communication/transparency and begrudgingly admits a “TA must stand on its own merit.”

That’s how someone with neither integrity nor credibility writes a half-assed apology.

Nightflyer 12-29-2023 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by CactusMan (Post 3743074)
He acknowledges the concerns about communication/transparency and begrudgingly admits a “TA must stand on its own merit.”

That’s how someone with neither integrity nor credibility writes a half-assed apology.

Quoted for truth. It was a non-apology, trying to save his job.

CloudSailor 01-06-2024 05:38 AM

PM has managed to weasel his way into staying as NC Chair until 'the end of the April bid month'. After failing to honor his given word of stepping down. How can he be trusted at all, by anyone, other than the company's negotiators?

A magical TA 1.1 under his "leadership" at the negotiating table before he steps down, should be a big concern to our line guys and gals. His goals are more aligned with the corporation than the pilot group. It has been that way for years. And a half-assed non-apology letter in which he fails to take any responsibility for the current mess we are in, isn't going to change anything. Just like the company, he's aiming for 50% +1, while paying for gains with serious QOL erosion (which won't hurt a dude with 20+ years here).

plzdontfireme 01-06-2024 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 3746686)
PM has managed to weasel his way into staying as NC Chair until 'the end of the April bid month'. After failing to honor his given word of stepping down. How can he be trusted at all, by anyone, other than the company's negotiators?

A magical TA 1.1 under his "leadership" at the negotiating table before he steps down, should be a big concern to our line guys and gals. His goals are more aligned with the corporation than the pilot group. It has been that way for years. And a half-assed non-apology letter in which he fails to take any responsibility for the current mess we are in, isn't going to change anything. Just like the company, he's aiming for 50% +1, while paying for gains with serious QOL erosion (which won't hurt a dude with 20+ years here).

The company is loving this. They can send us another awful offer before then and if we don't accept it, they just got at least another 4 months of not having to pay up. If we do accept, they win again.

Stan446 01-06-2024 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=CloudSailor;3746686]PM has managed to weasel his way into staying as NC Chair until 'the end of the April bid month'. After failing to honor his given word of stepping down. How can he be trusted at all, by anyone, other than the company's negotiators?

I agree. PM needs to go.

CloudSailor 01-06-2024 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by plzdontfireme (Post 3746805)
The company is loving this. They can send us another awful offer before then and if we don't accept it, they just got at least another 4 months of not having to pay up. If we do accept, they win again.

Sorry man, but everything about our NC Chair not honoring his own word and staying on - Doesn't Look Right, and Doesn't Smell Right.

You are right about the company loving something, it's having the pilot who sided with them on all kinds of concessions, back at the table.


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