Connecting Dots
01-01-2024, 06:00 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Might as well guit now.
My point is that I don’t think this pilot group realizes yet who JD truly is. I am surprised that the clowns at ALPO didn’t use that against us towards the end of their roadshows while they were trying to scare us in to voting yes on the crappy TA. It would have fit nicely on the slide under the threats of furlough.
Time to wake up boys and girls. This isn’t your daddy’s airline.
01-01-2024, 06:14 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,029
Originally Posted by Xing30west
Quality response. Maybe I will.
Time to wake up boys and girls. This isn’t your daddy’s airline.
Time to wake up boys and girls. This isn’t your daddy’s airline.
01-01-2024, 08:03 AM
#14
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Posts: 48
Originally Posted by Xing30west
Good point. Nothing to see here. What was I thinking? I must be overly paranoid.
Someone on the Board needed a fourth on their golf team for the country club championship. JD must have a good game. After JD welches on a few side bets... he'll be gone. I could be wrong 😂
01-01-2024, 08:06 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 824
Originally Posted by Xing30west
I guess I shouldn’t say amalgamation then.
JD is a pro at it. If my worst fears are true, TA 1.0 was the best deal we would have ever had. The court system will be where our next contract comes from…. in 5 years.
JD is a pro at it. If my worst fears are true, TA 1.0 was the best deal we would have ever had. The court system will be where our next contract comes from…. in 5 years.
Apples and oranges.
01-01-2024, 11:47 AM
#16
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Position: B767 FO
Posts: 421
This....the original starter gets its. Whatever is coming our way, that's the disturbing part to me. Yes, we deserve/need a respectable contract and that of course is going to take a lot of work and attention of our union.
Not being discussed, possibly being missed are the issues going on with the BOD, DE Shaw, Raj, DRIVE/Network 2.0, Dietrich, etc with company and other events on the ALPA National Stage, Age 67/Crew Complement etc.
I've been in this industry coming up on 30 years, and fascinated by it's entire history . As mentioned, there is nothing going on here that hasn't happened at another airline and pilot group.
We are distracted, and from my experience and knowledge, both in life and the profession, the things that you don't see coming are more impactful than those things you see right infront of you.
Not being discussed, possibly being missed are the issues going on with the BOD, DE Shaw, Raj, DRIVE/Network 2.0, Dietrich, etc with company and other events on the ALPA National Stage, Age 67/Crew Complement etc.
I've been in this industry coming up on 30 years, and fascinated by it's entire history . As mentioned, there is nothing going on here that hasn't happened at another airline and pilot group.
We are distracted, and from my experience and knowledge, both in life and the profession, the things that you don't see coming are more impactful than those things you see right infront of you.
01-01-2024, 11:57 AM
#17
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Posts: 414
Originally Posted by willflyforfud
My theory about JD is less ominous...
Someone on the Board needed a fourth on their golf team for the country club championship. JD must have a good game. After JD welches on a few side bets... he'll be gone. I could be wrong 😂
Someone on the Board needed a fourth on their golf team for the country club championship. JD must have a good game. After JD welches on a few side bets... he'll be gone. I could be wrong 😂
01-02-2024, 06:08 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 693
Originally Posted by OKLATEX
...the things that you don't see coming are more impactful than those things you see right infront of you.
But I'm wondering if you or someone else can elaborate on the DE Shaw piece? I tried a quick Google and I'm not "connecting the dots" on these comments.
Respond here or via PM. Thanks.
01-02-2024, 06:20 AM
#19
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Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 824
Originally Posted by zerozero
Atlas guy here. This is also my experience.
But I'm wondering if you or someone else can elaborate on the DE Shaw piece? I tried a quick Google and I'm not "connecting the dots" on these comments.
Respond here or via PM. Thanks.
But I'm wondering if you or someone else can elaborate on the DE Shaw piece? I tried a quick Google and I'm not "connecting the dots" on these comments.
Respond here or via PM. Thanks.
01-02-2024, 02:50 PM
#20
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Position: Midfield downwind
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There are 14 personnel on the BoD.
DE Shaw influenced two of those appointments and have an agreement which will allow them to name a third at some point.
It is perplexing to me how 3 members of a board of 14, which represent the interests of Shaw's 1% share of the company, could have "de facto control".
FedEx raises dividend, adds directors in agreement with D.E. Shaw
I think it is just as important to recognize that McKinsey and Company are also in Fred's House and seem to be advising Raj and the gang to slash/and/burn to increase the bottom line.
Certainly the combination of Shaw influencing Board decisions and McKinsey consulting on how to increase shareholder benefit, with the addition of Mr JD in the C Suite team, is going to equal some strange times ahead for organized and nonunionized labor at Purple.
DE Shaw influenced two of those appointments and have an agreement which will allow them to name a third at some point.
It is perplexing to me how 3 members of a board of 14, which represent the interests of Shaw's 1% share of the company, could have "de facto control".
FedEx raises dividend, adds directors in agreement with D.E. Shaw
I think it is just as important to recognize that McKinsey and Company are also in Fred's House and seem to be advising Raj and the gang to slash/and/burn to increase the bottom line.
Certainly the combination of Shaw influencing Board decisions and McKinsey consulting on how to increase shareholder benefit, with the addition of Mr JD in the C Suite team, is going to equal some strange times ahead for organized and nonunionized labor at Purple.
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