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Stan446 02-04-2024 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by MediocrePilot (Post 3763810)
Ok Stan...please tell us more about how much smarter you are than everyone else. Even though factual numbers were presented and you just come on here spouting your typical nonsense.


Sorry I don't follow your narrow views like the majority on here. And yes, I am wiser.

Anthrax 02-04-2024 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3763851)
Sorry I don't follow your narrow views like the majority on here. And yes, I am wiser.

😂

The ego!
Another adversary on this side of the table.

Herkguy80 02-04-2024 08:38 AM

Funniest part of this post is the boomers on JF who can't get their internet to work...

Merle Haggard 02-04-2024 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3763849)
So you had one CA a long time ago make an absurd statement and you are still bitter? Our pilots have shown there is plenty of greed in both seats. So guys want DL payrates but think the company isn't going to get something in return, as in student lines, float that by the mediator.

Inflation adjusted pay should not require ANY give-backs, it is merely a change in the cost of doing business (inherent throughout the entire economy) that is already being reflected in shipping rate increases. It is not our responsibility to subsidize the end product. The AVERAGE wage increase in the US since our last raise is 25.19% according to the Social Security Administration. The average worker did not endure what we did to generate record profits for their employer during that period. Unless we get significantly more than 25.19%, there is absolutely nothing to "horse trade" over. How is this lost on you?

Let the company tell the mediator that costs have gone up and should therefore be absorbed by the flight crews. To use your words, "Float that by the mediator". You sir, are the inherent problem with collective bargaining.

Temocil27 02-04-2024 03:53 PM

I’m convinced Stan446 isn’t a seniority list pilot. The poster has too much fun stirring the pot and going against.. you know.. basic fundamental knowledge of everything that is good for our group. They are a troll on the outside looking in. Don’t bother trying to reason or argue with them because it’s futile.

Stan446 02-04-2024 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 3764058)
I’m convinced Stan446 isn’t a seniority list pilot. The poster has too much fun stirring the pot and going against.. you know.. basic fundamental knowledge of everything that is good for our group. They are a troll on the outside looking in. Don’t bother trying to reason or argue with them because it’s futile.

Not everyone is bitter and angry like the minority here. Stirring the pot, hardly, contrary opinion yes. You won't see anything but the same angry posters here and you hate it when someone doesn't agree with you. Yep, try the discredit thing by saying I'm not a FX pilot. Latest FX news on PFC, B-757 update, Jan 31, 2024

FreightFlyer91 02-04-2024 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3764088)
Not everyone is bitter and angry like the minority here. Stirring the pot, hardly, contrary opinion yes. You won't see anything but the same angry posters here and you hate it when someone doesn't agree with you. Yep, try the discredit thing by saying I'm not a FX pilot. Latest FX news on PFC, B-757 update, Jan 31, 2024

Hey Stan, why don't you address why your orginal reaction to the TA was "our negotiating committee threw us under the bus again"? Thanks!

Dave Behnke 02-04-2024 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3763849)
So you had one CA a long time ago make an absurd statement and you are still bitter? Our pilots have shown there is plenty of greed in both seats. So guys want DL payrates but think the company isn't going to get something in return, as in student lines, float that by the mediator.

Nope, never flew with the doucher, but he's way famous around these parts. Flew with good ol' Capt Savage on multiple airplanes and didn't put up with his crap at all. My statement had nothing to do with greed nor am I bitter. I was simply pointing out that the seniority abrogation that the student lines proposal represents would never fly around here if it also impacted Captains. Just an observation about the tribal nature of our Union and our NC. Since FedEx made billions with a 'b' during Covid, has bought back billions in stock, has dramatically raised shipping rates since our last contract expired, well I don't think it's a hard sell that we deserve AT LEAST inflation adjusted pay rate increases and probably a little something extra.

Xing30west 02-04-2024 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3764088)
Not everyone is bitter and angry like the minority here.

So you define yourself as happy?

vc931 02-05-2024 04:42 AM

I agree that student lines are a bit of a concession. But can you see how getting paid 100% for not working can bother the company a bit. One of managements main focuses in this negotiation is to not pay guys for not working. Maybe not working contributes to your screen name MediocrePilot.


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