Maddog64

How does everyone feel that 8 Block Reps have asked the ALPA to tell the NMB that we want to be released to self help without even hearing the companies response to our latest offer. What a bunch of fools.

Council 22 Members,
On Monday, a Special MEC Meeting was held via teleconference. Under the agenda umbrella of “Negotiation Decisions, Strategies, and Actions Moving Forward,” an assembly line of unannounced resolutions was pushed forward by MEC Status Reps Cutler, Workman, Comer, Turner, Watson, Gomez, Holmes and Beckwith.
After the meeting started, they proceeded to ambush the rest of the MEC with lengthy and complex resolutions. For the sake of political expediency, these agenda items were forced through leveraging Robert's Rules to silence and stifle debate. This process culminated in a resolution demanding that the ALPA President file a request with the National Mediation Board for a proffer of binding arbitration.
Currently, we are awaiting the Company's response to our full and complete supposal as approved by the MEC. Unfortunately, BEFORE the Company even had the chance to provide a response, the above reps voted to reject and demand a release. This short-sighted course of action will ensure that we never know what the Company was actually going to provide.
Additionally, they delayed the Negotiating Committee from providing a debrief of last week’s negotiation session and information that the Mediator wished to share with the MEC. This included, but was not limited to, new and critical information about the upcoming meetings. They actually said “no” to learning new information that would have helped shape our decision-making on their agenda items. Instead, they chose a path that was predestined and will guarantee that we don’t resume negotiations anytime soon.
Pizza Pat

Nightflyer

Is there anything to prevent the company from presenting their response?

How did you feel about the NC coming back to the MEC to lower the ask?

Maddog64

For 23 years all I have heard from this pilot group is "We want Delta plus a nickel." Since we were offered Delta plus 30% and said no, I feel the NC asking to reduce our ask from Delta plus 75% to something more resonable was fine.

Stan446

How long have we been back with the mediator, 4 months? Kinda soon to think we are at an impass if the company has a response to our proposal but we won't look at it.

BlueMoon

While I’m all for getting released to self help, I highly doubt that they will grant it after such a short amount of time back at the table. Hopefully I’m wrong.

threeighteen

delta plus 30%? Yeah you and I definitely did not get the same TA mailed to us. I must have received the company opener.

Temocil27

How do you assert that TA1 had Delta plus 30%?

threeighteen

He’s likely using the fuzzy ALPA math that used the pension increase to bump the valuation of TA1 up but then also said “we didn’t subtract taking away the pension plan for new hires from the value of the TA because it’s too difficult”

How is it easy to assign a value to an increase in pension that they didn’t even know how many pilots would take but at the same time have it be too difficult to assign a value to the same pension that they know exactly zero pilots would be getting? If anything, calculating the second number should be easier, not more difficult.

YellowBanana

Delta plus 30%?!? Are you delusional? 🤣🤣 We weren’t anywhere close to that at all. It’s well past time to send a big ole Effffff YOU straight to Rajesh’s and Johnny boy’s desks. Maybe even a polite CC to Mr. Smith since he’s still the chairman. When do the pickets and the rolling billboards up and down shady grove start? Surely we can find 20-30 volunteers to stand outside their offices until they are absolutely repulsed by the image of a FedEx pilot in uniform. We are done playing nice.

Maddog64

Whether or not you believe that the rejected TA was worth 3.8 billion, that is the number that the NMB believes the tTA was worth. I believe they will just see us as greedy pilots, and we are going to get put in the penalty box while we continue to work for 2021 wages.

on a side note has everyone seen Bolck 2and 5 email today. How nice of them to use revenue numbers of 90 and 42.7 billion in stead of profit numbers. Any increase in our wages goes against profit not revenue.

• FedEx Corporation revenue: $90 billion
• FedEx Express portion: $42.7 billion
• Cash on Hand: $6+ billion
• Stock Repurchase approved: $5.0 billion in Dec 2021 with $1.6 billion left to use
• $116,986,301 of revenue every day for flying operations
• 18 days of flying would pay for our entire increase over 4 years (4.9% of a single year)

Our income for the express segment last year was 1.064 billion. That is 1/40 of the revenue. Using their fuzzy math they say 18 days of revenue pays for our increase. That works out to every bit of income that express makes for 720 days. Just shy of 2 years. Cutler and Turner want every bit of the first 2years profit we make.