View Poll Results: Should we ask to be released from the NMB
About time.
88
62.41%
We should wait to hear what the company offers.
15
10.64%
What a bunch of fools.
19
13.48%
It doesn't matter when we ask. We will never be released.
19
13.48%
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Are we at an impass
03-06-2024, 03:12 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,030
Originally Posted by Maddog64
Whether or not you believe that the rejected TA was worth 3.8 billion, that is the number that the NMB believes the tTA was worth. I believe they will just see us as greedy pilots, and we are going to get put in the penalty box while we continue to work for 2021 wages.
on a side note has everyone seen Bolck 2and 5 email today. How nice of them to use revenue numbers of 90 and 42.7 billion in stead of profit numbers. Any increase in our wages goes against profit not revenue.
on a side note has everyone seen Bolck 2and 5 email today. How nice of them to use revenue numbers of 90 and 42.7 billion in stead of profit numbers. Any increase in our wages goes against profit not revenue.
- FedEx Corporation revenue: $90 billion
- FedEx Express portion: $42.7 billion
- Cash on Hand: $6+ billion
- Stock Repurchase approved: $5.0 billion in Dec 2021 with $1.6 billion left to use
- $116,986,301 of revenue every day for flying operations
- 18 days of flying would pay for our entire increase over 4 years (4.9% of a single year)
03-06-2024, 03:33 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 174
Originally Posted by Stan446
I don't think the NMB sees us in any other light than a barganing entity. They've seen every negotiation where the company is claiming poverty and the pilots asking for as much gain as they can. I think its premature to ask for a release when we haven't seen what the company's offer is.
03-06-2024, 04:29 PM
#13
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by Stan446
I don't think the NMB sees us in any other light than a barganing entity. They've seen every negotiation where the company is claiming poverty and the pilots asking for as much gain as they can. I think its premature to ask for a release when we haven't seen what the company's offer is.
This outcome was so predictable when the MEC reached the agreement concerning the May deadline and impending replacement of the NC. Why would management not want to drag this out and force that deadline? Replacing the NC instantly adds a conservative 6 month transition (this should have happened last summer without question) prior to resuming negotiations. If the NC and MEC fail to abide by that agreement and somehow keep the same NC beyond this self-imposed deadline then we have even more division within the pilot group. The company wins in either scenario and literally had zero reason whatsoever to want to actually want to reach a deal in an expedited fashion. This was a foolish plan from the start.
We are at an impasse.
03-06-2024, 05:23 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 333
Originally Posted by Maddog64
Whether or not you believe that the rejected TA was worth 3.8 billion, that is the number that the NMB believes the tTA was worth. I believe they will just see us as greedy pilots, and we are going to get put in the penalty box while we continue to work for 2021 wages.
on a side note has everyone seen Bolck 2and 5 email today. How nice of them to use revenue numbers of 90 and 42.7 billion in stead of profit numbers. Any increase in our wages goes against profit not revenue.
on a side note has everyone seen Bolck 2and 5 email today. How nice of them to use revenue numbers of 90 and 42.7 billion in stead of profit numbers. Any increase in our wages goes against profit not revenue.
- FedEx Corporation revenue: $90 billion
- FedEx Express portion: $42.7 billion
- Cash on Hand: $6+ billion
- Stock Repurchase approved: $5.0 billion in Dec 2021 with $1.6 billion left to use
- $116,986,301 of revenue every day for flying operations
- 18 days of flying would pay for our entire increase over 4 years (4.9% of a single year)
03-07-2024, 07:52 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 1,109
Originally Posted by YellowBanana
The company has made it painfully clear that they will not offer one cent more than the value of the failed TA. I’m not sure why anyone would think they’d change their stance with the supposal.
This outcome was so predictable when the MEC reached the agreement concerning the May deadline and impending replacement of the NC. Why would management not want to drag this out and force that deadline? Replacing the NC instantly adds a conservative 6 month transition (this should have happened last summer without question) prior to resuming negotiations. If the NC and MEC fail to abide by that agreement and somehow keep the same NC beyond this self-imposed deadline then we have even more division within the pilot group. The company wins in either scenario and literally had zero reason whatsoever to want to actually want to reach a deal in an expedited fashion. This was a foolish plan from the start.
We are at an impasse.
This outcome was so predictable when the MEC reached the agreement concerning the May deadline and impending replacement of the NC. Why would management not want to drag this out and force that deadline? Replacing the NC instantly adds a conservative 6 month transition (this should have happened last summer without question) prior to resuming negotiations. If the NC and MEC fail to abide by that agreement and somehow keep the same NC beyond this self-imposed deadline then we have even more division within the pilot group. The company wins in either scenario and literally had zero reason whatsoever to want to actually want to reach a deal in an expedited fashion. This was a foolish plan from the start.
We are at an impasse.
