Tuck

You don't get to decide when an impasse occurs - nor does some dip**** poll on APC. Only the NMB gets to decide and they haven't done that for an airline in a long time.

Maddog64

Just heard a rumor thet Block 5 rep wants to get rid of all leadership and all committies so we can decertify ALPA and get the contract we deserve. That will set us back years, but Block 4 told the NMB he was willing to wait 10 years. What a bunch of a_ _ clowns.

Stan446

Instead of rumors, why don't we just wait to see what happens with the NMB?

threeighteen

Not a bad idea honestly. ALPA keeps throwing cargo by the wayside to focus on the legacies.

anything to avoid growing a pair, eh?

plzdontfireme

Since August it has been:

"we gotta keep PM and wait for the NMB."

Then it was "we gotta keep PM so the the company will make their offer. It will magically be excellent this time, we promise."

Then it was "the company offer sucks (surprise surpise), we gotta wait for the NMB, gotta keep PM"

Then it was "The company really wants to make us a good offer, lets keep PM and wait for the good offer!"

And then now we're at "The company doesn't even want to go back to square one (CBA 2015), any QOL improvements beyond CBA 2015 aren't even being entertained, we gotta wait for the NMB!"

I think enough pilots are finally beginning to see that the company is just using this process to continue to delay our CBA, and the screaming minority gang and their representatives that didn't get recalled were there to assist the company with that. I doubt we've seen the last of it, but at least we're on the upswing now in terms of MEC leadership.

MarkThyme

There is at least one among your ranks who gets it. It's this guy.

I'll be surprised if you have a deal before the end of 2025, and if you do, I predict it will be more on the company's terms than on yours.

plzdontfireme

Guys like PM, Tuck, Stan, yourself, etc have unfortunately been very successful at making the pilot group stop caring about getting a deal done quickly as long as it gets done right. We tried the "get a deal done quick" thing and ended up with TA2023. Then we tried the "give PM just few more months to get another quick deal" and it just wasted even more of our time. Now the focus is: "get the spineless group out of our MEC and NC, reorganize, and get this done right even if it takes a minute."

Sunny1

Yes, Thank you for making your opinion known - We were all hoping you’d drop by the FedEx Forum and let us know what you think. Based on your posting history you seem to believe that everyone everywhere needs to know what your opinion is … GMAFB (eye roll)

Merle Haggard

Pilots who operate from a position of pessimism and fear is a glowing example of the success of the company's tactics.

Thankfully it's representative of the minority for the first time since the '90's.

opt0712

^This. The bullsh#t from the company cannot be accepted anymore regardless of who the NC Chair is. None of us should accept the foot dragging from the company. The enemy is the company, no one else.

And anyone claiming a "hijack" to ask for proffer of arbitration needs to read the PM. This doesn't delay anything, since the NMB can say No. The company wasn't going to magically respond to our latest supposal with everything we asked for. That's ignorant. Myself and many are DONE waiting for the company to come to the table with what we've EARNED.