Block 5?
03-10-2024, 05:53 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by max8222
That's right, CT went after fellow pilots especially as a union rep. The same pilots he is supposed to represent, just because they didn't have the same opinions as his.
03-10-2024, 06:49 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by max8222
That's right, CT went after fellow pilots especially as a union rep. The same pilots he is supposed to represent, just because they didn't have the same opinions as his.
03-10-2024, 06:50 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by HelpABrotherOut
How in TF is the block 5 rep still on an extended, paid vacation from management (NOQ)??!!! Nice way to get the holidays off with pay. Certainly hoping that turns into NQN soon.
I still hope you get everything you’re looking for in the next TA. The guy you’re crapping on is doing a hell of a great job trying to make sure you do.
03-10-2024, 07:08 PM
#14
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Nice first post. What is your real screen name you usually post under. You guys sure like to use the word unconscionable. Buzz word of the year?
Nice conspiracy theory about jumpseat denial.Talk about scheming, what did the TC eight just do last week, all kinds of openess and transparency.
Nice conspiracy theory about jumpseat denial.Talk about scheming, what did the TC eight just do last week, all kinds of openess and transparency.
03-10-2024, 07:14 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by max8222
That's right, CT went after fellow pilots especially as a union rep. The same pilots he is supposed to represent, just because they didn't have the same opinions as his.
03-10-2024, 07:20 PM
#16
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So the minority is just supposed to lay down and not fight for their beliefs? You guys have gotten too many participation trophies growing up.
if you can't figure it out for yourself you drank to much of the JF koolaid.
if you can't figure it out for yourself you drank to much of the JF koolaid.
03-10-2024, 08:00 PM
#17
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Position: 727 Flight Engineer
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
When your beliefs include:
”the majority is wrong”
”what the majority wants doesn’t matter”
”retirement improvements are worth compromising/sacrificing industry leading pay and QOL, and job security”
“we’re never going to get better than TA1”
Then yes, absolutely, you do need to put aside your beliefs because you are not helping your peers or even yourself at this point.
If your belief was simply:
”retirement needs to be improved”
Then you’d actually find that you have a lot in common with the rest of us, and we could move forward instead of trying to simultaneously fight the company and guys like you that want to sacrifice the careers of the rest of us that aren’t retiring soon.
Just because retirement is the only thing that matters to you, that doesn’t mean it’s the only thing that matters. As soon as your screaming little minority group gives up their relationship with management and rejoins rank with the union things will start going a lot better for all of us. We don’t want to leave you behind, because that means leaving behind the good guys in block 1+2 that voted no, but if you keep dragging us down instead of supporting us, you’re just going to make this process take even longer and put your retirement fix even more at risk.
To me it sounds like you’re the one who wants the participation trophy (retirement) without having to show up and fight for it or work as a team player with the rest of the team.
”the majority is wrong”
”what the majority wants doesn’t matter”
”retirement improvements are worth compromising/sacrificing industry leading pay and QOL, and job security”
“we’re never going to get better than TA1”
Then yes, absolutely, you do need to put aside your beliefs because you are not helping your peers or even yourself at this point.
If your belief was simply:
”retirement needs to be improved”
Then you’d actually find that you have a lot in common with the rest of us, and we could move forward instead of trying to simultaneously fight the company and guys like you that want to sacrifice the careers of the rest of us that aren’t retiring soon.
Just because retirement is the only thing that matters to you, that doesn’t mean it’s the only thing that matters. As soon as your screaming little minority group gives up their relationship with management and rejoins rank with the union things will start going a lot better for all of us. We don’t want to leave you behind, because that means leaving behind the good guys in block 1+2 that voted no, but if you keep dragging us down instead of supporting us, you’re just going to make this process take even longer and put your retirement fix even more at risk.
To me it sounds like you’re the one who wants the participation trophy (retirement) without having to show up and fight for it or work as a team player with the rest of the team.
03-10-2024, 08:33 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by max8222
Nice first post. What is your real screen name you usually post under. You guys sure like to use the word unconscionable. Buzz word of the year?
Nice conspiracy theory about jumpseat denial.Talk about scheming, what did the TC eight just do last week, all kinds of openess and transparency.
Nice conspiracy theory about jumpseat denial.Talk about scheming, what did the TC eight just do last week, all kinds of openess and transparency.
03-10-2024, 08:51 PM
#20
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Posts: 3,093
Originally Posted by Shadow Recruit
Conspiracy theory! hah! Go check the document put out by CT last year that has the screenshots. It’s all there.
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