Nordhavn

"System bidding: Yeah, it sucks. It didn't poll in the top four in items to be fixed. Have you looked at Uniteds' new contract? If they bid to a seat, and a new bid comes out and they could hold a better seat, yet haven't trained for the previos seat, they can't bid. If you are stuck in a seat, and a junior pilot got hired into the seat you want, how do you suggest fixing it? A bump and flush bid? Wouldn't that be sticking it to the junior guys, or does that only apply if you aren't the junior guy?"

I would guess so. What good is seniority if you are going to just hire newbiew into senior seats? Pretty ridiculous when you finally get an award for your 1st choice after years of waiting for said bid and then have to wait another couple of years for your training slot. PSA probably does better than FX, lol.

CloudSailor

Absolutely.

We would like to be as unified as your group, and these times, they seem to be unifying us. Probably as unified as when the opti(sodo)mizer was let loose on the pairings many years ago.

JackStraw

We have a lot in common with UPS.

UPS has NURPS and we have the Silent Majority.

JustInFacts

I have never stated that we never had rates higher than Delta, just that we haven't always been the highest. Since 1999 until now, we have had the highest rate for less than 10 of those 26 years. My point isn't that we shouldn't have Delta pay rates. Many people have come here for other reasons than just pay rates, and the numbers support that. Most of our seniority list was hired while we didn't have the highest rates.

Even you had reasons other than pay to come here.

Westerner

Why did TA1 fail? Your arguments point towards the majority supporting it. You even have "the numbers support"ing your claims/opinions. Are the numbers public information? Are you possibly misinterpreting the information or using faulty data/reasoning?

Anthrax

there is no reasoning with this dude. he loves to argue on behalf of the company and is more often than not proven wrong, and when he is he backtracks and sidetracks and/or ignores valid arguments and points. Hearing from those who have flown with Justin HA——- they all say he’s a terrible pilot with a giant ego. IDK what happened to my ignore list, but he somehow got off of it. back on he goes.

Flying Boxes

That benefit is only made possible by higher pay rates. I’m not a draft *****.

Flying Boxes

JustinOpinions,
Ounce again you are wrong. Majority (over half) were hired after 2012. Which means we were the highest pay rate as you already admitted. Those post 9/11 hires didn’t have options for employment because of 9/11 & age 65/Great Recession.

Anthrax,
Thanks for the heads up, I know his MO.

JustInFacts

Where did I say you were a draft *****? I simply quoted you saying that vacation was a BIG reason you came to Fedex. Any other implication is on you! And how is our vacation a benefit only made possible by higher pay rates?

All of block 1 and 2 were hired before 9/11, when our contract had rates lower than Delta. In January 2014, Delta had rates higher than ours. In November 2015, our rates went a little higher than theirs until January 2016, two months later. So, since a little more than half our crew force has been hired since Januray 2015, and for all but two months of that time, Delta had higher rates, the majority of our crew force was hired when we didn't have the highest rates. Unless, of course, you are suggesting that we hired as many pilots in those two months as we have in both blocks 1 and 2 combined. Notice that I am excluding those pilots hired after 9/11, even though Delta still had higher rates than us all the way until mid 2004.

Freight

Our vacation is good, but that’s zero reason to work for substandard pay. Neither is what happened 15 years ago. Regionals use to pay pennies now first year pay is $90/hr.

We fly bigger airplanes into smaller airports during worse hours with more DG on board making the company more revenue than our PAX counterparts. Zero reasons to work for less money. Know your worth!