Mass Layoffs Today
03-21-2024, 03:19 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Huck
Those protections go away if we get released. Which we just asked for......
03-21-2024, 03:36 PM
#13
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Posts: 824
Originally Posted by PanelApe
...today is a good time to reflect on furlough protections in our contract. They would have put them on the streets if they could have.
If we're gonna talk about it - let's talk about all of it.
03-21-2024, 03:46 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Nov 2023
Posts: 67
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
Today might be a good time to reflect on how "furlough protections" may have caused a bunch of people to miss a hiring wave that would've made them better off. It's time to talk about how "furlough protections" may have signed us all up for 55 hour paychecks for the forseeable future. It's time to talk about how 4a2c is an option that allows the company to have their cake and eat it too - pay everyone less without making the tough and potentially costly decision to furlough.
If we're gonna talk about it - let's talk about all of it.
If we're gonna talk about it - let's talk about all of it.
03-21-2024, 04:03 PM
#15
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Posts: 824
Originally Posted by FedUpWilson318
Maybe I'm mis-reading your point, but once pilots are on board, I'd rather dip into 4a2b/c and 55 hour paychecks than see anyone furloughed. 4a2b/c protections, along with the rediculous system bids, have thankfully prevented them this time around. You see it different?
4a2c is a gift to the company. Furlough is a strategy that takes lots of time and money to execute as well as to reverse. Section 4a - not nearly as much.
FedEx is not responding to the markets right now as much as it's restructuring the business and catering to activist investors. If we get to 4a2c we may be there for longer than anyone can imagine. Look, if our boat sinks offshore what is the benefit of distributing weight if there's enough of it to drown everyone? Are we really doing anyone a favor?
For context, I've been furloughed for extended periods of time. Those who fared best were the ones that saw things for what they were and got on with plan B. It sucks (sucked), but often the right or best option is hardest.
03-21-2024, 04:29 PM
#16
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Posts: 67
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
I do.
4a2c is a gift to the company. Furlough is a strategy that takes lots of time and money to execute as well as to reverse. Section 4a - not nearly as much.
FedEx is not responding to the markets right now as much as it's restructuring the business and catering to activist investors. If we get to 4a2c we may be there for longer than anyone can imagine. Look, if our boat sinks offshore what is the benefit of distributing weight if there's enough of it to drown everyone? Are we really doing anyone a favor?
For context, I've been furloughed for extended periods of time. Those who fared best were the ones that saw things for what they were and got on with plan B. It sucks (sucked), but often the right or best option is hardest.
4a2c is a gift to the company. Furlough is a strategy that takes lots of time and money to execute as well as to reverse. Section 4a - not nearly as much.
FedEx is not responding to the markets right now as much as it's restructuring the business and catering to activist investors. If we get to 4a2c we may be there for longer than anyone can imagine. Look, if our boat sinks offshore what is the benefit of distributing weight if there's enough of it to drown everyone? Are we really doing anyone a favor?
For context, I've been furloughed for extended periods of time. Those who fared best were the ones that saw things for what they were and got on with plan B. It sucks (sucked), but often the right or best option is hardest.
Fortunately systemwide SAM numbers built into 4a2b/c protections added with the insanely long system bids and the supposedly disproportionate number of 777FOs that would be furloughed have forced the company to buy up lines vs. utilizing furlough OR 4a2x. I think the SAM calculation was the part we got right in previous CBA(s).
03-21-2024, 05:23 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 670
Originally Posted by MEMA300
55 hr pay for a few months and you wont have to furlough. Guys at the bottom will voluntarily leave and go somewhere else.
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