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Old 03-23-2024, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock View Post
Absolutely no one is asking anyone to advocate for illegal job actions. And anyone thinking our only options are illegal is an idiot. Wipe those ideas out of your mind. They aren't on anyone's table.

Now explain the legal courses of action you think we should be taking that we aren't.
wipe those ideas out of my mind? those ideas aren’t on my mind, so what are you talking about?

the way forward is listed on the fdx alpa website. give it a read.
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Old 03-23-2024, 02:56 PM
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Word on the street is 15k layoffs ahead of the Earnings Call. Pro Instructors being shown the door.

“DRIVE straight to the unemployment line.” -Raj
75/76, Airbus, and MD pros were all eliminated. 777 pros are still employed.
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Old 03-23-2024, 03:20 PM
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All the Pro Instructors xcept 777 were let go?

man the flexes gonna be getting lots of draft calls for training events.
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Old 03-23-2024, 04:52 PM
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THIS

Accept reality, the SM is just a scheming minority that has ceded to the true majority. Our path forward is via a union willing to fight.
What does this fight entail? Is it picketing that seems to increase the stock price? All that national news we got as a result? Just trying to figure out what fighting is - we know from 318 that it's just flying your so what is it?
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Old 03-23-2024, 04:53 PM
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you are on here trying to bait people into advocating for illegal job actions, which shows how mental you are, one for trying to get those with whom you disagree in trouble for your amusement, and two because you think people are stupid enough to fall for it.
Sure whatever - everyone has personal choices that are 100% legal - you clearly are part of the problem (love how you're quoted in Freight Waves too - that was pretty funny. ) Love the name though - anthrax as in toxic. Correct.
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Old 03-23-2024, 05:57 PM
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What does this fight entail? Is it picketing that seems to increase the stock price? All that national news we got as a result? Just trying to figure out what fighting is - we know from 318 that it's just flying your so what is it?
IMHO, fighting entails replacing the MEC beta cucks that not only forwarded us a divisive TA but went on to disingenuously sell it like used car salesmen. Fighting means replacing the management-friendly NC chair rather than scheme via WhatsApp to keep him in his seat. Fighting means refusing to accept industry-lagging pay and QOL even if it means we **** off some senior members who care only about a pension bump. IDGAF about pickets, and the stock price/buybacks should only embolden us in this fight as the company throws money around while telling our pilot group to pound sand.
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What does this fight entail? Is it picketing that seems to increase the stock price? All that national news we got as a result? Just trying to figure out what fighting is - we know from 318 that it's just flying your so what is it?
Tuck: "Negotiations are difficult, and I'm uncomfortable with demanding more from the company. Let's just give up! You guys with me????"
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Old 03-23-2024, 08:29 PM
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Tuck: "Negotiations are difficult, and I'm uncomfortable with demanding more from the company. Let's just give up! You guys with me????"
Great. You aren't giving up. So what exactly are you doing? No one else has an answer. Maybe you do.
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Originally Posted by CactusMan View Post
IMHO, fighting entails replacing the MEC beta cucks that not only forwarded us a divisive TA but went on to disingenuously sell it like used car salesmen. Fighting means replacing the management-friendly NC chair rather than scheme via WhatsApp to keep him in his seat. Fighting means refusing to accept industry-lagging pay and QOL even if it means we **** off some senior members who care only about a pension bump. IDGAF about pickets, and the stock price/buybacks should only embolden us in this fight as the company throws money around while telling our pilot group to pound sand.
So far your "fighting" has made our union disfunctional and frozen contract negotiations. Was that the plan? The company doesn't seem to care.
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So far your "fighting" has made our union disfunctional and frozen contract negotiations. Was that the plan? The company doesn't seem to care.
Newsflash - our union was dysfunctional when they voted 13-1 to send a divisive TA that would ultimately fail ratification to our pilot group. PM has failed to make any meaningful progress despite the same dysfunctional group patting him on the back until their grip on power recently ended in disgrace as their neverending recall attempts have only resulted in more losses (watch TO get booted here soon).

What was the plan by our previous dysfunctional MEC - sell a concessionary contract into ratification with threats of furlough and lies about scope? Any plan moving forward is better than that one.

I’m not happy about the slow pace of negotiations, either. We need to learn from our mistakes, though. PM got hoodwinked falling for “focused” negotiations. Here we are 3 years in with a failed TA and a multitude of ignored expenses/problems (physicals, uniforms, SUB, RSV abuse, etc.). Acknowledge the NC’s overwhelming failure and get it right, even if it takes more time. I don’t like it any more than you do, but I have too much time left at this company to roll over and vote in concessions that will last for decades.
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