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Old 05-26-2025 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
If ALPA would commit to retroactive retirement and retroactive pay for EVERYONE FORCED to retire since the amendable date, I wouldn't be so concerned about Age 67.

BUT THEY WON'T. Shame on ALPA.

I sat 5 years in the right seat when it switched to 65. It wouldn't hurt you to sit for 2, and if we get a good contract, many, including myself, won't stay any longer than the signing date.

Age discrimination is real. People should be allowed to work until 67 or even 70, if they desire and are in good health, mentally and physically.

If Part 135 can go to 70, there is no reason why part 121/117 can't either. It is just ALPA throwing their older members under the bus.

Canada, where ALPA now represents pilots, goes to 67, as do many other countries. How can ALPA represent pilots that can work until 67, while lobbying against it for US pilots? They are hypocrites.
United flight attendants have a better contract and retro benefits than we’ll ever see. Thanks ALPA and FedSux. Now go do another HUB turn and take a 3 day extension. You didn’t need to be home. Best job in aviation. 2015 pay! Place sucks

-Bubs
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Old 05-27-2025 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
Says the guy lobbying for Age 67
Thanks for the comment,...good to see you made it out of EWR.
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Old 05-27-2025 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
United flight attendants have a better contract and retro benefits than we’ll ever see. Thanks ALPA and FedSux. Now go do another HUB turn and take a 3 day extension. You didn’t need to be home. Best job in aviation. 2015 pay! Place sucks

-Bubs
So...you're saying you want to be a United Flight Attendant now?
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Old 05-27-2025 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
If ALPA would commit to retroactive retirement and retroactive pay for EVERYONE FORCED to retire since the amendable date, I wouldn't be so concerned about Age 67.

BUT THEY WON'T. Shame on ALPA.

I sat 5 years in the right seat when it switched to 65. It wouldn't hurt you to sit for 2, and if we get a good contract, many, including myself, won't stay any longer than the signing date.

Age discrimination is real. People should be allowed to work until 67 or even 70, if they desire and are in good health, mentally and physically.

If Part 135 can go to 70, there is no reason why part 121/117 can't either. It is just ALPA throwing their older members under the bus.

Canada, where ALPA now represents pilots, goes to 67, as do many other countries. How can ALPA represent pilots that can work until 67, while lobbying against it for US pilots? They are hypocrites.
What branch of ALPA are we talking here? National? Our MEC? You don’t think we have enough to worry about for actual members of the MSL?

I’ve been thinking about your post for a few days now and haven’t hit the submit button, but it’s time. You’re also wrong about raising the retirement age. 1 out of 5 guys I fly with in their mid 60s are sharp enough/actually give enough of AF to be there. Flying with a 70 year old would be like driving with Grandpa in his Crown Vic with the blinker on going 48 MPH on the highway. Lets not do that, thanks though.
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Old 05-27-2025 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27
What branch of ALPA are we talking here? National? Our MEC? You don’t think we have enough to worry about for actual members of the MSL?

I’ve been thinking about your post for a few days now and haven’t hit the submit button, but it’s time. You’re also wrong about raising the retirement age. 1 out of 5 guys I fly with in their mid 60s are sharp enough/actually give enough of AF to be there. Flying with a 70 year old would be like driving with Grandpa in his Crown Vic with the blinker on going 48 MPH on the highway. Lets not do that, thanks though.
Nightflyer think it’s his world and we’re all just living in it. Only the Age 60 rule being changed to 65 affected him. Only him. It didn’t affect any other pilots that were at other airlines during that time period. It only affected him. He can only afford Shelby GTs not McLarens. If only we could raise the age limit to 67 he could purchase something less white trashy.
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Old 05-28-2025 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
So...you're saying you want to be a United Flight Attendant now?
Hey, at least I’d have a contract and some retro pay. I can sling a soda like the best of them.

-Bubs
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Old 05-31-2025 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Why do you wish for them to get terminated? Don’t rejoice over the downfall of your brother. And no they have not been fired and I don’t want them fired either. Let’s just all learn from their mistakes.
Back on topic.

You are really clueless.
These guys are NOT brothers and to characterize their activities as mere ‘mistakes’ to be learned from is preposterous. Let’s just set aside, for a moment , the fact that they were stealing from the company. Are you okay with these dopes stealing other pilots back end deadheads? How about having the xparing trip number and date ahead of everyone else loaded up and mashing the button before the trip even hits open time? How about when the scheduler didn’t process trades while waiting for these guys to fix their calendars and or just wait for them to get online to drop priority on everone else? There’s way more to the scam but if you are okay with any of it, then there’s something just plain wrong with your brain.

Rejoicing, of course not. Another ridiculous ASSertation. Most people just aren’t aware how badly these guys have been f####ng everone over, so I’ve simply put it out there. Well, I’ll tell you what, they have definately discovered the meaning of FAFO. So, you’re wrong about that too.

Over and out.
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Old 06-02-2025 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Class9
Back on topic.

Are you okay with these dopes stealing other pilots back end deadheads? How about having the xparing trip number and date ahead of everyone else loaded up and mashing the button before the trip even hits open time?
This. I’ve personally flown with a guy that had his pairing revised and backend DH pulled….and he saw who it went to.
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Old 06-14-2025 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Class9
Back on topic.

Any updates?
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Old 06-14-2025 | 01:11 PM
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Company probably let them off because it helps the company out since these guys divide up the crew force. More independent operators!
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