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Old 01-20-2025 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
You serious?🤔

You fookin dino's look like you got 1 foot in the grave. You need a vacation from this place. Just resign your check status and fly the line.
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Old 01-20-2025 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dakota
🤣🤣 Any wonder why it took so long for some to get hired here. COVID no doubt.
Amazing that all you smart guys squandered massive leverage DURING COVID by being the *****s you are. Congratulations, now the only way you can get a TA is by getting a very small and immensely powerful group of people to take one for the team. There ain't no way the LCP's will do this.
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Old 01-20-2025 | 08:39 AM
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​​​​​​Without being at FedEx, I can only offer a slightly informed guess. I suspect some of your people are believing the hype and taking out their frustration in the cockpit. People see themselves as parts of small tribes, however those tribes are divided. Hopefully you just have one or two guys starting to lose their grip and not a wider problem like we encountered here.

People get weird during negotiations. At our shop people would go rogue about bizarre stuff in the cockpit. I suspect they thought they were somehow showing something to somebody, but the weird stuff was, well, weird. A senior captain insisted on hand flying in cruise, in RVSM when I was an FO. Other folks would reach over and snap off my flight director inside the FAF just to see what I'd do (land normally and ask what he thought he'd accomplish by having me fly raw data). There was other weird stuff like a guy who published an unofficial scab lost and started hiding them around the fleet. Some people would mash switches. You'll note none of this comes with the risk of highlighting themselves or putting themselves on anybody's radar. In short, no real career risks are taken.

I upgraded before negotiations were done, so it could be that I stopped seeing and hearing stuff when I changed seats. That said it seemed weird stuff stopped cold turkey with a contract and union election. So, at least here, I think there was a cockpit effect from prolonged frustrations in negotiations.

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Old 01-20-2025 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 12oclkcharlie
Anyone else hear of this? Guess this has recently become a "thing" on the 77. I didnt think those guys were that dedicated since that's pretty much the retirement cruiser.
Sadly, I had this happen late last year, and it forced me into a LCT sim. He told me he needed the landings more than I did.

>shrug< Oh, well.
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Old 01-20-2025 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn
You fookin dino's look like you got 1 foot in the grave. You need a vacation from this place. Just resign your check status and fly the line.
Yup; got me pegged angry man. I was just surprised that someone in your position - and who likes to throw around the word retard - would use the word "airman's" and make it plural with an apostrophe. Now take a blood pressure pill and go back to screaming about those with one foot in the grave😂
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Old 01-20-2025 | 09:50 AM
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I hope that was not at a big three. That sounds like some of the lifers at a regional I was at many moons ago. Some of the most unprofessionism in the cockpit I have heard of.
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Old 01-20-2025 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 60av8tor
Yup; got me pegged angry man. I was just surprised that someone in your position - and who likes to throw around the word retard - would use the word "airman's" and make it plural with an apostrophe. Now take a blood pressure pill and go back to screaming about those with one foot in the grave😂
At least angry men have balls. If I'm not mistaken, initiation into SM requires you to check your balls upon entry. Now take a blood pressure pill and go back to screaming about those you tried to screw with your yes vote.
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Old 01-20-2025 | 10:29 AM
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Initiation into SM requires them to put thier balls on your chin while you are hugging your Rainbow colored unicorn while you are crying out I know my worth!
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Old 01-20-2025 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
I suspect some of your people are believing the hype and taking out their frustration in the cockpit. People see themselves as parts of small tribes​​​​
Very much this
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Old 01-21-2025 | 05:51 AM
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The only time in recent memory I can remember a captain denying me a landing is when one was about to go on vacation and needed to reset his count as he was planning on being out for a couple months. I asked the last captain I flew with for the odd landing and he was happy to give it to me.

As far as the SM, many of captains I've flown with on the triple have really seemed to come around, or at least recognize that actively undermining our new union leadership is only going to prolong them getting a new contract. In fact, I had a layover a few weeks ago where we ran into an LCA at a pub in CDG who was ponitificating his SM idiocy as if it was gospel, and the Capt I was with shut him down so hard I thought they might get physical. Labeling all the 77 Capts as SM stooges is definitely inaccurate.
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