Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 3874542)

Yes, I read what you wrote. IIRC, and it was several years ago during Covid, the RFO who got the landing was trying to convince the FO to put in for it, and the FO was hesitant, saying "schedules didn't do that, you did".

These are the types of situations which the company notices and then fixes in the fine print, usually to the detriment of the entire crew force.

It didn't pass the smell test with me, I told them so, but he was going to try anyway. I don't know how it turned out.

My point is, if you bid RFO, don't expect to get any landings. RFO lines usually don't go junior.

If you are junior and need landings, put in for first fly, call the scheduler and tell them you need landings, or suck it up and go to the sim.

I have very little sympathy for anyone hired directly into the right seat of the 777 complaining about a lack of landings.

Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3873052)

Amazing that all you smart guys squandered massive leverage DURING COVID by being the *****s you are. Congratulations, now the only way you can get a TA is by getting a very small and immensely powerful group of people to take one for the team. There ain't no way the LCP's will do this.

Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3873052)

Amazing that all you smart guys squandered massive leverage DURING COVID by being the *****s you are. Congratulations, now the only way you can get a TA is by getting a very small and immensely powerful group of people to take one for the team. There ain't no way the LCP's will do this.

Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 3874830)

yup and look at who flies the most extra now? It's all the post 2015 hires...you know, the "all in" crowd

Originally Posted by Thrust Hold (Post 3874839)

You're extremely ignorant if you think that the LCP's wield all of the power. They do 2 months of Line Checks per year. That's it...

I personally have not flown any DFT in at least two years (probably much longer, but I didn't go back any further). Very little IOE has occurred in my fleet.

Not sure where you think that mighty leverage lies with group that you continuously single out. Very Unifying!

Give up your position like you ask them to. Vote with your feet and leave.

Originally Posted by PanelApe (Post 3875386)

No concessions in section 11? Quick lesson on " how to show everyone I don't know what I'm taking about but will run my mouth anyway"....last I checked anyone on MSL can apply to be an instructor in the schoolhouse - you should definitely apply.

Originally Posted by PanelApe (Post 3875386)

No concessions in section 11? Quick lesson on " how to show everyone I don't know what I'm taking about but will run my mouth anyway"....last I checked anyone on MSL can apply to be an instructor in the schoolhouse - you should definitely apply.

Originally Posted by max8222 (Post 3875516)

More ignorance on our contract. It is a disease on our crew force. I am sure you are up to date on the FB Jetflyers version though.

Originally Posted by Single Seat (Post 3874781)

You sound absolutely miserable to fly with

Originally Posted by Herkguy80 (Post 3876421)

I can't believe we actually have bootlickers saying you shouldn't call the company and get two guys an extra 1.5CHs for an RFO/FO swap. How could you possibly be against that???? Probably an Air Force O-6