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Old 03-19-2026 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
If you’re saying there are any concessions then you’ll never see them for what they are. You also supported and defended TA2023. It’s your opinion and I respect that.
First, where did I say that there weren't any concessions? Every negotiation has concessions. Yes, even the legacy contracts had concessions, you just don't want to see them.

I have been on record many times saying I voted no for TA2023 as well as saying it wasn't sufficient.

Maybe you don't want to point out what you see as to much concessions because you can't defend that they are worth voting no for. Who knows what the rest of the TA will bring. But hey, keep putting your mad before your money. I do think that the top rate will start with a 5, maybe not effective on the date of signing, but during the life of the contract, yes.

Funny how guys say they don't want to sacrifice pay rates for pension gains on one hand, and then on the other, talk about how valuable it is and how costly it is to the company.
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Old 03-19-2026 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
It wasn't negotiated by CAPTAIN JG. Council 22 says it's bad so no further research has to be done. Just parrot them. All will be well. Release is coming any day now.
You mean the guy who wanted to increase the pension pay out to $224k/year for a select few while leaving everyone else with a max of $187k/year?

I agree, if these guys think that we will be released if we turn down the next TA, I have a large chunk of ice to sell them.
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Old 03-19-2026 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
You mean the guy who wanted to increase the pension pay out to $224k/year for a select few while leaving everyone else with a max of $187k/year?

I agree, if these guys think that we will be released if we turn down the next TA, I have a large chunk of ice to sell them.
JG needed to go. JN needs to go next. He’s a company shill. Sick of these ultra senior union guys hooking themselves up as they walk out the door. We need someone with balls and at least 10 more years left here to chair the MEC
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Old 03-19-2026 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueAvi8tor
JG needed to go. JN needs to go next. He’s a company shill. Sick of these ultra senior union guys hooking themselves up as they walk out the door. We need someone with balls and at least 10 more years left here to chair the MEC

I think thats the set-up that Council 22 wants to orchestrate next. And I could care less. I don't care for their manipulation of things they believe are egregious but I think the Council 22 bobble heads have acquiesced to the fact that the TA needs to come in April and it needs to PASS. The tone is softening and they know that guys will go for the money cause we're feeling the pain. The next step is to PASS the TA and then get rid of JN and anyone else they feel is aligned with that ADMIN. And, it maybe pretty easy to do.

The Company is printing money and I don't see how they drag this out past the next sessions in April. Its time to pass a TA and move on. As far as getting rid of JN for youth? Idk. I don't really care. I shouldn't even know who is bickering at the union politics. Thats the whole point. Those guys are elected to keep things rolling so if there is a problem they jump in and make it better. Otherwise, keep on chugging. Ask a Delta guy who their rep is? They won't know. Lets be like that.

-Bubs
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Old 03-20-2026 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
…I shouldn't even know who is bickering at the union politics. Thats the whole point. Those guys are elected to keep things rolling so if there is a problem they jump in and make it better. Otherwise, keep on chugging. Ask a Delta guy who their rep is? They won't know. Lets be like that.

-Bubs
This has been such a debacle for so long I could start printing trading cards for our block and MEC reps. “NO WAY bubs- you have a Comer rookie card?? I’ll trade you a PM and two MBs for it!”
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Old 03-20-2026 | 05:28 AM
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I have not come across a single person that is a fan of JN. If we don't have a passable TA after the next sessions I believe he is gone and we will have another protracted delay, is what it is. We really need someone that can talk some sense into both sides of our fractured union.
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Old 03-20-2026 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueAvi8tor
JG needed to go. JN needs to go next. He’s a company shill. Sick of these ultra senior union guys hooking themselves up as they walk out the door. We need someone with balls and at least 10 more years left here to chair the MEC
Between the length of the contracts and the length of the negotiations at FDX, the CEO and the MEC Chair for the next one haven't been born yet.
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Old 03-22-2026 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
At least Atlas is buying A350’s! FedSux for the win!! Can I get a rec? Anyone?

-Bubs
Come on over! We have trash bags and LaCroix with your name on it! (Your name on them? We have bags and cans for you to grab? You' know what I mean.)
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