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04-14-2026 | 10:12 AM
#141
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Its been a while since I've had friends at DAL/UAL send me their domestic & international trips.
That said, I suspect their block hour/TAFB ratio is higher than FDX or UPS. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if their bids tend to have lower TAFB.
When you see people say "My buddy at ___________ on the 330/350/777/787 does three 3-day and one 2-day trip a month and credits 80 hours", those trips are almost certainly paying on block vs. min day or trip rig.
That said, I suspect their block hour/TAFB ratio is higher than FDX or UPS. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if their bids tend to have lower TAFB.
When you see people say "My buddy at ___________ on the 330/350/777/787 does three 3-day and one 2-day trip a month and credits 80 hours", those trips are almost certainly paying on block vs. min day or trip rig.
04-14-2026 | 11:16 AM
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Funny. My peers are all WB Capts at DAL and UAL? Your fake news isn't going to fly here. And they fly 9 to 11 days a month and get 85 to 100 hours credit. And that is not including the soft credits that sometimes bump it up to 120 credit for month. ATL- HND, CPT, ICN, JNB. EWR- TLV, NRT, JNB, DXB, etc. And they sleep 6 hours each flight since they are augmented. And then surf Fox News and CNBC with the onboard Wifi.
04-14-2026 | 11:34 AM
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3-4 turns? I think you mean 2-4 legs. Usually 3 or less, unless on the 717. Majority of guys are domestic as you say though. However, the junior true widebody CA is a 2014 hire. That said, that’s still a much longer wait than what is available in the cargo world.
The WB FO or NB CA after 29 years are extremely senior in those seats, and could easily hold WB CA if they wanted.
04-14-2026 | 02:15 PM
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Yes, 3 legs not 3 days You are right.[/QUOTE]
04-15-2026 | 07:50 AM
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3-4 turns? I think you mean 2-4 legs. Usually 3 or less, unless on the 717. Majority of guys are domestic as you say though. However, the junior true widebody CA is a 2014 hire. That said, that’s still a much longer wait than what is available in the cargo world.
The WB FO or NB CA after 29 years are extremely senior in those seats, and could easily hold WB CA if they wanted.
The WB FO or NB CA after 29 years are extremely senior in those seats, and could easily hold WB CA if they wanted.
Just so I understand, when you say "junior true widebody CA" which aircraft are we talking about? I'm not super familiar with your guys fleet/operation so not sure what is considered a true WB over there.
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04-15-2026 | 09:44 AM
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So 767-300 pilots are paid NB rates, and thus the aircraft is much more junior. So in the financial and seniority sense, it isn’t considered “true WB” for this context.
Since the last contract’s pay banding, the number of pilots able to hold the top WB rate increased from 8% to about 25%.
04-15-2026 | 09:57 AM
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True WB has WB pay. All of DL widebodies pay WB pay, *except the 767-300.*
So 767-300 pilots are paid NB rates, and thus the aircraft is much more junior. So in the financial and seniority sense, it isn’t considered “true WB” for this context.
Since the last contract’s pay banding, the number of pilots able to hold the top WB rate increased from 8% to about 25%.
So 767-300 pilots are paid NB rates, and thus the aircraft is much more junior. So in the financial and seniority sense, it isn’t considered “true WB” for this context.
Since the last contract’s pay banding, the number of pilots able to hold the top WB rate increased from 8% to about 25%.
04-15-2026 | 10:57 AM
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