FedEx Hiring
12-09-2015, 10:57 AM
#1222
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Look up - post #1206
"BI started Monday...
3 777, 2 76, 3 75, 12 AB"
Sorry, I'll be more specific.
Any breakdown on the new hires' backgrounds?
Mil, civ, times, internals, job fairs...
Thanks.
12-10-2015, 08:30 PM
#1224
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 2,889
The group of guys hired in a largely 767 HKG class all seem to have some 75/76 time somewhere....most had some time in supplemental 121 operations at some point.
My own observation is the hiring model likes the ex-military, clean shiny guy with a high GPA and instructor/evaluator experience. When **** hits the fan and we gotta fill classes, however, we scrub the stack for guys with aircraft specific experience. Back in 2011, and again recently, we had a stack of guys called in with MD11 or 76 experience. The 75/76 issue seemed to be to eliminate some of the consolidation requirements, but since one of my FOs who was a captain for years on the 76 showed "FO has less than 75 hours in type" on the release I am not sure how that is working in the regulatory world. The MD11 experience just makes sense as that gorgeous beast is wonderful to fly but requires precision in the last 50 feet. Getting someone who has already been there, done that makes sense if you are hiring directly to the seat.
I don't know what it takes to get called, but anecdotally there were about a dozen guys with 76 experience in the app file who said they'd go to Hong Kong. All were apparently interviewed, and most hired. If FedEx was my long term dream job I'd run, not walk to Ryan or Atlas to get some 75/76 experience and check the "yes" to FDA block on the apps.
I completely understand the FDA isn't right for everyone, and I'm not trying to sell anyone into a bad idea for family. But for that young dude or guy languishing at a supplemental that goes "what do I need to do to get hired?", there are a few data points indicating that works.
My own observation is the hiring model likes the ex-military, clean shiny guy with a high GPA and instructor/evaluator experience. When **** hits the fan and we gotta fill classes, however, we scrub the stack for guys with aircraft specific experience. Back in 2011, and again recently, we had a stack of guys called in with MD11 or 76 experience. The 75/76 issue seemed to be to eliminate some of the consolidation requirements, but since one of my FOs who was a captain for years on the 76 showed "FO has less than 75 hours in type" on the release I am not sure how that is working in the regulatory world. The MD11 experience just makes sense as that gorgeous beast is wonderful to fly but requires precision in the last 50 feet. Getting someone who has already been there, done that makes sense if you are hiring directly to the seat.
I don't know what it takes to get called, but anecdotally there were about a dozen guys with 76 experience in the app file who said they'd go to Hong Kong. All were apparently interviewed, and most hired. If FedEx was my long term dream job I'd run, not walk to Ryan or Atlas to get some 75/76 experience and check the "yes" to FDA block on the apps.
I completely understand the FDA isn't right for everyone, and I'm not trying to sell anyone into a bad idea for family. But for that young dude or guy languishing at a supplemental that goes "what do I need to do to get hired?", there are a few data points indicating that works.
12-10-2015, 11:53 PM
#1225
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,672
Originally Posted by Albief15
MD11 experience just makes sense as that gorgeous beast is wonderful to fly but requires precision in the last 50 feet. Getting someone who has already been there, done that makes sense if you are hiring directly to the seat.
And even purple has done the same "back in the day", with a stop in 72/DC10 engineer seat before going right seat MD11.
And IIRC, even the "ANC/purple nugget" days there were pilots with ZERO heavy time hired to the MD11.
12-11-2015, 04:17 AM
#1227
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Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 2,889
The GPA and finishing a degree in +/- 4 years is a shrink target for successful folks. My point was when they get desperate for -67 or -11 time, those categories on the app seem to be more important than the GPA, location of degree, or prior military experience. That is all...
FWIW...I am NOT espousing any of these criteria as a good way to do business. I am just throwing out what I have seen anecdotally. What is that line: "Mongo just a pawn in the game of life?" I'm not trying to steer the hiring, just reacting to what I see and passing it on...
FWIW...I am NOT espousing any of these criteria as a good way to do business. I am just throwing out what I have seen anecdotally. What is that line: "Mongo just a pawn in the game of life?" I'm not trying to steer the hiring, just reacting to what I see and passing it on...
12-11-2015, 07:11 AM
#1229
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 37
I'm just tired of FedEx and Delta holding GPA as some indicator to how well we are at a trade skill. "Flying an airplane is no different than riding a bicycle, its just a lot harder to put baseball cards through the spokes" Capt Kramer. I know...a discriminator. When there are thousands of us out here, they've got to go to something. I too shall await a miracle.
12-11-2015, 07:24 AM
#1230
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Position: KC-135IP
Posts: 59
[QUOTE=Albief15;2025558] I don't know what it takes to get called, but anecdotally there were about a dozen guys with 76 experience in the app file who said they'd go to Hong Kong. All were apparently interviewed, and most hired. If FedEx was my long term dream job I'd run, not walk to Ryan or Atlas to get some 75/76 experience and check the "yes" to FDA block on the apps.
Albie thanks for the insight. You give solid advice--thank you for the time and thought you put into your responses. So here's my situation...I'm currently the Chief of Stan/Eval in a tanker (KC-135) guard unit. I work full time as an ART. I have checked the boxes of degree (MBA), high GPA, and heavy overwater experience. I want to earn my spot as a FedEx pilot but I'm unsure how best to do it. Would you suggest leaving my job as an ART to go to Atlas or another operator to get the 75/76 type or would you continue to build your resume on the ART side of things? The airlines are my ultimate goal. FedEx is certainly at the top of the list. Thanks for the help.
Originally Posted by Albief15
The GPA and finishing a degree in +/- 4 years is a shrink target for successful folks. My point was when they get desperate for -67 or -11 time, those categories on the app seem to be more important than the GPA, location of degree, or prior military experience. That is all...
FWIW...I am NOT espousing any of these criteria as a good way to do business. I am just throwing out what I have seen anecdotally. What is that line: "Mongo just a pawn in the game of life?" I'm not trying to steer the hiring, just reacting to what I see and passing it on...
FWIW...I am NOT espousing any of these criteria as a good way to do business. I am just throwing out what I have seen anecdotally. What is that line: "Mongo just a pawn in the game of life?" I'm not trying to steer the hiring, just reacting to what I see and passing it on...
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