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Old 01-02-2015 | 09:54 AM
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Cool about the $5K private school stipend. We've paid up to 26K per kid for private school, with no stipend. I can't imagine international schools are more expensive.[/QUOTE]

Which country were you living in at the time? Could you have sent your kids to the public schools and let them learn the language?
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Old 01-02-2015 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
My professional advice is do not mislead KD or the HR department at FedEx. If anyone gets the vibe you are lying or misleading them, you may A) get your offer rescinded or B) get placed in a purgatory status and placed in class much, much later.

Shoot straight and you may end up in a class a week later. Lie--well--you may never get on property. I can only imagine HR team's reaction when someone says "oh...yeah...thanks for the interview.....but I CHANGED MY MIND on the whole FDA thing..." I don't think it will endear you to anyone in management, and as a probationary pilot that doesn't seem too wise.

There are other companies that pay new hires more (American) or have pay scales that approach ours (Delta) that are hiring 1500 this year. Get your ass fired from Fedex and I imagine getting picked up at those places might be a bit more of a challenge.
??? First year pay at the new American is $40 an hour... $36,000 for year one roughly...
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Old 01-02-2015 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
My professional advice is do not mislead KD or the HR department at FedEx. If anyone gets the vibe you are lying or misleading them, you may A) get your offer rescinded or B) get placed in a purgatory status and placed in class much, much later.
OK Albie, so why is the company playing games with their applicants. Paris? The Europe domicile is in Cologne, right?

You advise us to shoot straight, but the HR department is NOT in this case. Do you have any info on whether the two FDA questions are designed as another set of filters in the application screening?

My apologies for the snarkiness... THANK you for all the information you provide here.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 11:38 AM
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New AA contract will be in 70-80k range according to sources.

I am not defending HR. All I am trying to do is keep new hires or interviewees from being shown the door. Last round see guys said the had FE written a done...but did not. Some were not hired. Had one guy who was not forthright about an issue escorted off by security during his interview.

Want to be a sea-lawyer? Want to stick it to the man? Go for it! My suggestion is let the guys off probation and in positions to influence the issues do the fighting. If fedex is one of your many choices, and you don't mind explaining your choice...one on one...to HR...go ahead. But know you are an at will employee for the next 12 months, and any misstep will be without the benefit of any accumulated goodwill. Our company has fired folks, and I would hope we could avoid adding any more to the list.

Perhaps my experience knowing guys fired makes me cautious. If you want to ignore the advice its 100% your call.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 12:27 PM
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Regarding the two added FDA questions: Answer yes and yes. This does not commit you to anything, and IMHO may well be a very crude and imperfect (Paris--really?) "loyalty test." I think it's absolutely bogus that these have been added.

Do whatever it takes to get the interview. Then pass the interview. Once you have a class date & equipment/base offer, then you can say yea or nay depending on your circumstances. And just because you happen to accept an FDA assignment does NOT obligate you to move your family there--it just means you won't have the extra living allowances for housing, schools, etc. Will it be hard? Assuredly. Will it be worth it? Absolutely.

In the meantime, keep working those contacts at the legacies hiring by the bucketful.

Just my $0.02 worth.
I should have stipulated--Do not lie. Do not mislead. But there is a big difference between saying you are willing today--right here right now--to accept a hypothetical FDA assignment and (for example) saying you have a current medical or other required qualification listed. If you have zero intention of EVER accepting an FDA assignment, either with or without your family, then definitely do not check yes. I hope "they" remove these wide-open FDA questions. Until they do, every time you change your mind after talking to your significant other, better make sure you update your application accordingly.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 01:26 PM
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Everyone just relax. There was a similar question on the questionnaire when I got hired in 2012. I answered yes. At no point in time during the interview (Day 1) did it come up. Day 2 while completing CJO paperwork, I was asked what I preferred. I prefered MEM but was seeking further info on CGN and I stated such. I never received the info they said they would provide me before I was offered a MEM class. Several people in my Indoc class had volunteered. There was never any pressure other than knowing you would most likely start immediately if you volunteered.

FWIW, here is the exact verbiage from pilot credentials.

48. As we may have a need to fill positions in our Foreign Duty Assignments we are asking that you respond to the following questions. The response to these questions is merely an expression of interest and does not imply that you would be assigned these positions.

Are you willing to accept an assignment to Hong Kong for a minimum of two years?
Yes No
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49. Are you willing to accept an assignment to Paris for a minimum of two years?
Yes No
Enter any comments below


50. I am interested in a Foreign Duty Assignment at this time. Please type yes or no.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
I am not defending HR. All I am trying to do is keep new hires or interviewees from being shown the door.
Fair enough...thanks Albie!
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Old 01-02-2015 | 03:45 PM
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The Paris domicile question is an error they never corrected from the 2011-2012 hiring window. Should say Cologne and that is what the intent is.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VSTOLG4
The Paris domicile question is an error they never corrected from the 2011-2012 hiring window. Should say Cologne and that is what the intent is.
Yep, cuz the company is all about intent instead of what is actually written.
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Old 01-02-2015 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
Yep, cuz the company is all about intent instead of what is actually written.
Well, in their defense the road to hell would still be gravel if it weren't for intent.
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