Deviation Bank
08-22-2015 | 12:01 PM
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A great thing about this deviation bank, orvil, is that it doesn't have to be used just for going back and forth from home to work. If it is within three days of a trip, you can use it to go anywhere, for any reason. You can use the bank to go to Europe, Hawaii, the Far East, wherever, and that is completely within the contractual rules. Plane, train, boat, taxi, whatever.
However, this works well for the company. Since many of us live outside of Memphis, we generally go well below our deviation banks, and I'm sure they make millions of dollars out of the deal. Win/win, as long as they get the bogus deviation ticket fares fixed.
However, this works well for the company. Since many of us live outside of Memphis, we generally go well below our deviation banks, and I'm sure they make millions of dollars out of the deal. Win/win, as long as they get the bogus deviation ticket fares fixed.
08-22-2015 | 01:21 PM
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You've always been able to use your bank for tips for the driver for a deviation (though if you go much above 15%, occasionally they will deny the excess tip). Never tried it for just a tip, for scheduled transportation, though.
Tips for the maid? Can't imagine being able to claim that unless she provided transportation (and has a taxi license).
Tips for the maid? Can't imagine being able to claim that unless she provided transportation (and has a taxi license).
08-22-2015 | 01:55 PM
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08-22-2015 | 02:03 PM
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Seriously I thought I remembered Jet Jock claiming the dollar he tipped the maid and the dollar he tipped the driver once as an out of pocket expense. I figured I might start tipping more than the refund fee on empty beer bottles if we could do that.
Three times.....No, Four.
08-22-2015 | 06:34 PM
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08-22-2015 | 08:16 PM
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I'm not sure how the concept would work at a passenger airline? Why wouldn't your airline just book you seats on YOUR airline?
Our contract says they can't schedule us on company jumpseats for trips that don't start or end at your base. So ... they have to buy us tickets on the pax carriers (our old contract also said that over 5 hours would be booked in FIRST CLASS, we have many International deadheads over 5 hours). FIRST CLASS tickets sometimes cost as much as $10,000 one way. I've never had the company question ticket prices as long as you stayed within your deviation bank (one of our few restrictions was we couldn't take the Concorde).
Because the company buys so many commercial tickets they negotiate corporate discounts with many of the airlines. At the end of the month they add up what they would have paid for your (discounted) tickets. You can spend that money to travel from your home to the deadhead city, or your home to your base.
The paperwork is a bit of a MAJOR hassle but if you don't live in domicile it can be a good deal. Some senior pilots bid all deadhead trips and only go to MEM for recurrent training (you can jumpseat or use your deviation bank for that).
Some airlines let us accumulate frequent flyer miles. For several years as a senior international f/o I was earning 250,000 ff miles/yr.
It's generally viewed as a good deal. One of the few problems in recent years is that the company has been "exaggerating" (pants on fire?) how cheap they could buy commercial tickets. Hopefully they fixed that in our latest TA?
Our contract says they can't schedule us on company jumpseats for trips that don't start or end at your base. So ... they have to buy us tickets on the pax carriers (our old contract also said that over 5 hours would be booked in FIRST CLASS, we have many International deadheads over 5 hours). FIRST CLASS tickets sometimes cost as much as $10,000 one way. I've never had the company question ticket prices as long as you stayed within your deviation bank (one of our few restrictions was we couldn't take the Concorde).
Because the company buys so many commercial tickets they negotiate corporate discounts with many of the airlines. At the end of the month they add up what they would have paid for your (discounted) tickets. You can spend that money to travel from your home to the deadhead city, or your home to your base.
The paperwork is a bit of a MAJOR hassle but if you don't live in domicile it can be a good deal. Some senior pilots bid all deadhead trips and only go to MEM for recurrent training (you can jumpseat or use your deviation bank for that).
Some airlines let us accumulate frequent flyer miles. For several years as a senior international f/o I was earning 250,000 ff miles/yr.
It's generally viewed as a good deal. One of the few problems in recent years is that the company has been "exaggerating" (pants on fire?) how cheap they could buy commercial tickets. Hopefully they fixed that in our latest TA?
Just to be technically correct anything over 5 hours requires a "higher class of service" up to 16 hours (IIRC) which then requires FC.
If you deviate then you just have to qualify for a higher class of service.....then your bank determines if you ride Biz or FC.
08-23-2015 | 12:14 AM
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Deviation bank can be used +/- 3 days of ANY scheduled activity. Sim, RSV, Trip, STBY, etc...If it is on your calendar (except SCK, VAC, MED, MLA, etc) then you can tag an expense to the deviation bank. The key word is ANY scheduled activity.
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