Retro Pay/Signing Bonus...How much is enough?
08-27-2015, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Whaledrivr
If you think UPS A Plan and Delta’s Profit sharing offset each other here is a sample scale.
UPS 15 Yr Captain UPS 15 Yr FO (70%)
2012 261.67 185.51
2013 274.75 192.32
2014 288.49 201.94
2015 302.92 212.04
2016 318.06 222.64
2017 333.96 233.77
2018 343.98 240.79
2019 354.30 248.01
2020 364.93 255.45
2021 375.87 263.11
2022 387.15 271.00
2023 398.77 279.14
UPS 15 Yr Captain UPS 15 Yr FO (70%)
2012 261.67 185.51
2013 274.75 192.32
2014 288.49 201.94
2015 302.92 212.04
2016 318.06 222.64
2017 333.96 233.77
2018 343.98 240.79
2019 354.30 248.01
2020 364.93 255.45
2021 375.87 263.11
2022 387.15 271.00
2023 398.77 279.14
First, UPS top pay is $261. Has been for years. And I don't see going to your numbers.
where is the Delta info? You need to do a total re-do.
08-27-2015, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
Signing bonus, 125 million, our methology.....
*** does that mean? Is ALPA going to scrape money to go into strike find, pad their pockets?
They've done it at other airlines....
*** does that mean? Is ALPA going to scrape money to go into strike find, pad their pockets?
They've done it at other airlines....
08-27-2015, 03:38 PM
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I wish it was that easy, believe me...
I was just asking a question. Does that bonus/retro/whatever its called ALL come to us, or does ALPA plan on skimming funds to pad some of their programs...see, those of us here that have flown at other airlines have seen ALPA take a percentage of bonus/retro/whatever its called to fund strike funds, rainy day funds...etc.
I was just asking a question. Does that bonus/retro/whatever its called ALL come to us, or does ALPA plan on skimming funds to pad some of their programs...see, those of us here that have flown at other airlines have seen ALPA take a percentage of bonus/retro/whatever its called to fund strike funds, rainy day funds...etc.
08-27-2015, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
I wish it was that easy, believe me...
I was just asking a question. Does that bonus/retro/whatever its called ALL come to us, or does ALPA plan on skimming funds to pad some of their programs...see, those of us here that have flown at other airlines have seen ALPA take a percentage of bonus/retro/whatever its called to fund strike funds, rainy day funds...etc.
I was just asking a question. Does that bonus/retro/whatever its called ALL come to us, or does ALPA plan on skimming funds to pad some of their programs...see, those of us here that have flown at other airlines have seen ALPA take a percentage of bonus/retro/whatever its called to fund strike funds, rainy day funds...etc.
08-27-2015, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
I wish it was that easy, believe me...
I was just asking a question. Does that bonus/retro/whatever its called ALL come to us, or does ALPA plan on skimming funds to pad some of their programs...see, those of us here that have flown at other airlines have seen ALPA take a percentage of bonus/retro/whatever its called to fund strike funds, rainy day funds...etc.
I was just asking a question. Does that bonus/retro/whatever its called ALL come to us, or does ALPA plan on skimming funds to pad some of their programs...see, those of us here that have flown at other airlines have seen ALPA take a percentage of bonus/retro/whatever its called to fund strike funds, rainy day funds...etc.
08-27-2015, 09:11 PM
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Huh?
Originally Posted by Whaledrivr
If you think UPS A Plan and Delta’s Profit sharing offset each other here is a sample scale.
UPS 15 Yr Captain UPS 15 Yr FO (70%)
2012 261.67 185.51
2013 274.75 192.32
2014 288.49 201.94
2015 302.92 212.04
2016 318.06 222.64
2017 333.96 233.77
2018 343.98 240.79
2019 354.30 248.01
2020 364.93 255.45
2021 375.87 263.11
2022 387.15 271.00
2023 398.77 279.14
UPS 15 Yr Captain UPS 15 Yr FO (70%)
2012 261.67 185.51
2013 274.75 192.32
2014 288.49 201.94
2015 302.92 212.04
2016 318.06 222.64
2017 333.96 233.77
2018 343.98 240.79
2019 354.30 248.01
2020 364.93 255.45
2021 375.87 263.11
2022 387.15 271.00
2023 398.77 279.14
08-28-2015, 06:47 AM
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Position: 757 Capt
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Then vote no and recall everyone. Problem solved.
If this TA is the same ole 3% "dog n pony show" (or less) that mgmt & ALPA NC/MEC have been producing for the last 20 years, I totally buy in to the "RECALL" for MEC reps that voted yes to send this to rank and file for vote. If they haven't learned the tune that mgmt sings yet, "You're out" (disgracefully). Not so sure about "problem resolved" tho.
08-28-2015, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
...Does that bonus/retro/whatever its called ALL come to us, or does ALPA plan on skimming funds to pad some of their programs...see, those of us here that have flown at other airlines have seen ALPA take a percentage of bonus/retro/whatever its called to fund strike funds, rainy day funds...etc.
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