6 week bid periods
#21
What has happened?
#22
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LAG, you seem to have turned over a new leaf. I saw you as a person who was usually skeptical about things that werent cut and dry/black or white. Now you seem to be the opposite, giving the benefit of doubt to the Company when history proves that if interpretation of the contract can be used by them to put the screws to us, they will.
What has happened?
What has happened?
I like 2 six week bid months instead of 4 five week bid months.
I like the 76 having 36 hours off in Campinas.
The retirement we did to ourselves.
I like the bonus cash split, much fairer than 2006.
I like the 4A2b paragraph.
Voting no will probably get us the same contract in a year with maybe a couple of percent more, and possibly a fix to retirement now that the clue bird has crapped on how big a hammer Fred has with the 260k cap.
All that said I will listen to the NC explain why they think this is the best we can get.
#23
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Actually, there is. TA restricts single trips in the 6 week BP to be no longer than 390 hours TAFB (~16 days). That's the same restriction as trips in the 5 week period.
Bottom line there is there just won't be any single departure lines in the 6 week BP, which is probably a good thing generally speaking. There will just be another week long trip somewhere in the BP to go with your two-weeker to round things out.
Bottom line there is there just won't be any single departure lines in the 6 week BP, which is probably a good thing generally speaking. There will just be another week long trip somewhere in the BP to go with your two-weeker to round things out.
#24
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Q: Are my international trips going to get longer because of the new 6 week bid periods?
A: Your single departure trips will not be longer since we maintained the current 5 week bid period maximum limit for a trip at 390 TAFB
#25
Nope, right now as read I am probably a no on this contract. Would you agree that under the logic of some of the posters here the company could have 8 five week months and 3 four weeks months? Why haven't they?
I like 2 six week bid months instead of 4 five week bid months.
I like the 76 having 36 hours off in Campinas.
The retirement we did to ourselves.
I like the bonus cash split, much fairer than 2006.
I like the 4A2b paragraph.
Voting no will probably get us the same contract in a year with maybe a couple of percent more, and possibly a fix to retirement now that the clue bird has crapped on how big a hammer Fred has with the 260k cap.
All that said I will listen to the NC explain why they think this is the best we can get.
I like 2 six week bid months instead of 4 five week bid months.
I like the 76 having 36 hours off in Campinas.
The retirement we did to ourselves.
I like the bonus cash split, much fairer than 2006.
I like the 4A2b paragraph.
Voting no will probably get us the same contract in a year with maybe a couple of percent more, and possibly a fix to retirement now that the clue bird has crapped on how big a hammer Fred has with the 260k cap.
All that said I will listen to the NC explain why they think this is the best we can get.
OK. Just dont want you to start drinking the koolaide!
#26
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Where does it say that in the TA?
#27
page 353.
Regular lines shall be constructed with a maximum of 313 hours TAFB
in a 4-week bid period, and 390 hours TAFB in a 5-week bid period, and
470 hours TAFB in a 6-week bid period. A single trip in a 6-week bid
period shall not exceed 390 TAFB. Regular lines will only be
constructed with a maximum of 15 work days in a 4-week bid period and,
19 work days in a 5-week bid period, and 23 work days in a 6-week bid
period.
Regular lines shall be constructed with a maximum of 313 hours TAFB
in a 4-week bid period, and 390 hours TAFB in a 5-week bid period, and
470 hours TAFB in a 6-week bid period. A single trip in a 6-week bid
period shall not exceed 390 TAFB. Regular lines will only be
constructed with a maximum of 15 work days in a 4-week bid period and,
19 work days in a 5-week bid period, and 23 work days in a 6-week bid
period.
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