Health Scare
#11
Really just asking, as I have not seen this clearly addressed (or I missed it).
#12
First time ever ALPA will get to look at the books. Up til now, our insurance premiums were some unknown number subject to a 6% increase...ooh scary.
But the 10% max increase of yr 1 2006 CBA was barely a blip....As people looked at the 9%, then 3% raises.
Now it's causing coronaries, hello one thing we should have figured out for sure is that the Affordable Care Act wasn't affordable
But the 10% max increase of yr 1 2006 CBA was barely a blip....As people looked at the 9%, then 3% raises.
Now it's causing coronaries, hello one thing we should have figured out for sure is that the Affordable Care Act wasn't affordable
#13
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Nice LTD Surprise
Here's a nice surprise...especially for the guys currently on LTD. And it's good for the rest of us...going on LTD is often out of someone's control.
The LTD payment has been raised to 60% of 401(a)(17) limits for the first 24 months and 50% thereafter. It is now indexed to annual IRS changes to the limit and it applies to a pilot whether or not they are already on LTD as of the signing of the TA. And, it's high watermarked so that if the limit ever goes down a VEBA will be established to make up the difference back up to the high watermark. [The 401(a)(17) is the $265,000 number for 2015]
Let's say someone had $280,000 income in 2014 and went on LTD. Under the current CBA they would have been limited to $11,000 a month, and under the TA, it would be ($265,000 (limited from $280,000) x .6) / 12 = $13,250. Nice increase and the right thing to do.
The LTD payment has been raised to 60% of 401(a)(17) limits for the first 24 months and 50% thereafter. It is now indexed to annual IRS changes to the limit and it applies to a pilot whether or not they are already on LTD as of the signing of the TA. And, it's high watermarked so that if the limit ever goes down a VEBA will be established to make up the difference back up to the high watermark. [The 401(a)(17) is the $265,000 number for 2015]
Let's say someone had $280,000 income in 2014 and went on LTD. Under the current CBA they would have been limited to $11,000 a month, and under the TA, it would be ($265,000 (limited from $280,000) x .6) / 12 = $13,250. Nice increase and the right thing to do.
7.
6. As of June 1, 2006, aA pilot’s monthly LTD Plan benefit during the first
24 months of disability may not exceed
$11,000 per month, subject to the
limitations
60% of the monthly compensation limit set forth in Code §
401(a)(17).
As of June 1, 2006, aA pilot's monthly LTD Plan benefit
following the first 24 months of disability may not exceed
$9,166.66 per
month, subject to the limitations
50% of the monthly compensation limit set
forth in Code § 401(a)(17). Increases to this limit shall be indexed based
on periodic adjustments to the limitations of Code § 401(a)(17)
.7. The
provisions of Section 27.J.6. above notwithstanding, on and after October
30, 2006, the monthly benefits of pilots in pay status, which are capped by
the limitations of Code § 401(a)(17), will be adjusted, up to the 60% or
50% level, as applicable, but not to exceed the amount permitted pursuant
to the limitations of Code § 401(a)(17) at the time of such adjustment
. The
benefit amount adjustments made under this Section 27.J.7. are not
intended to be one-time adjustments; rather, adjustments will continue to
be made in the future, for benefits paid thereafter, at the time of future
adjustments to the limitations of Code § 401(a)(17). This Section 27.J.7.
shall apply to all pilots, whether their benefits began before or after the
signing of this Agreement.
In the event the limit set forth in Code §
401(a)(17) is decreased legislatively, the Company shall establish a VEBA
to cover pilots in the LTD Plan only. Compensation used to calculate
benefits to be paid from the newly established VEBA shall be limitedannually to the greater of (1) the highest limit under Code § 401(a)(17) in
effect at any time prior to it being decreased or (2) the current limit in
effect under Code § 401(a)(17).
#14
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The total projected costs for 2017 and each calendar year thereafter will be determined by an actuary selected by the Company and will be developed from the experience of all pilots and eligible dependents participating in medical, dental and vision coverage, excluding fully
insured options. The Company’s actuary will use reasonable actuarial assumptions and methods that are designed to determine such total projected costs in the actuary’s best professional judgment. By June 15th of each year, the Company will provide to the Association the actuary’s detailed preliminary determination of what the total projected costs will be in the following calendar year. At the Association’s request, the Company and the Company’s actuary will meet with the Association and the Association’s actuary to present and review the Company actuary’s detailed analysis. The Association may provide comments on such analysis by July 7th, and the Company’s actuary will consider such comments in making its final determination of total projected costs. For example, by June 15, 2016, the Company will provide to the Association the actuary’s detailed preliminary determination of the total projected costs for 2017, and the Association may provide comments on such analysis by July 7, 2016. As soon as practicable following the end of 2017 and each calendar year thereafter, the total projected per capita costs for all pilots and survivors paying active rates for that calendar year will be compared to the actual costs for that calendar year. This comparison will be performed in the aggregate for the Buy Up and CDHP options, and separately for dental benefits and vision benefits. The Company will meet with the Association to present these results. If the actual costs are more or less than the total projected costs (outside a corridor of +/- 3%), the difference times the year’s contribution percentage shall be applied to each coverage tier for the next year’s contributions for all pilots and survivors paying active rates participating in that coverage tier in the next calendar year; provided, however, that total monthly contributions for any coverage tier will be not more than 10% over the monthly contributions payable for such coverage tier for the immediately preceding calendar year.
Example: As soon as practicable in 2018, the total projected per capita costs for all pilots and survivors paying active rates for 2017 will be compared to the actual costs for 2017, and if the actual costs are more or less than the total projected costs (outside a corridor of +/-3%), the difference times the 2017 contribution percentage shall be applied to
2019’s contributions for all pilots and survivors paying active rates participating in 2019; provided that the total monthly contributions for any coverage tier will not be more than 10% over the monthly contributions payable for such coverage tier for 2018.
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#17
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I don't see that the cost of the buy up plan increases significantly. However, the unknown cost of the Cadillac tax, is concerning. So we get a worse plan, but they reimburse us in way such as increased pay (which for some, is taxed at 45% or greater?). Lovely. I don't see any purpose in participating in the consumer driven plans, unless there is alternate insurance. However, I do wonder if this is setting us up for that becoming the only option.
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