Industry Leading
10-04-2015, 01:44 PM
#133
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Position: MD
Posts: 194
Oh that hurts.
You're taking this very personal. Everyone, this is business and this man is taking it very, very personal.
Man up and tell us who YOU are. Fanatic. You vote how you vote I'll vote how I'll vote. One of us is normal well adjusted and doesn't give at rats ass how the other votes.
I will admit you amuse me.
Not much, but a little.
You're taking this very personal. Everyone, this is business and this man is taking it very, very personal.
Man up and tell us who YOU are. Fanatic. You vote how you vote I'll vote how I'll vote. One of us is normal well adjusted and doesn't give at rats ass how the other votes.
I will admit you amuse me.
Not much, but a little.
10-04-2015, 02:09 PM
#134
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,756
I don't care who either of you are. If you would like to stay anonymous, on an anonymous internet forum, that should be your choice. Trying to "out" people is creepy.
I guess if there's nothing that you can argue besides attacking others, you've run out of arguments.
I guess if there's nothing that you can argue besides attacking others, you've run out of arguments.
10-05-2015, 03:01 AM
#135
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 737 NG CAPT.
Posts: 216
Industry leading in China, just for a comparison.
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Contract Term: 3 year initial / Renewable
Contract Options: Living in China, or Commuter.
Total Compensation:
Total Compensation for Living in China: $25,665 per month (net)
Fly 980 hours per year, and make $332,220 per year!!
Option 1: 42 days of paid leave per year
Total Monthly compensation: $25,655 per month
Salary: $21,889
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $2000
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $300/hour over 900 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 2: 22 days on, 8 days off or 44 days on, 16 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $24,655 per month
Salary: $20,889
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $2000
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $280/hour over 900 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 3: 19 days on, 11 days off…or 38 days on, 22 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $20,655 per month
Salary: $17,389
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $1500
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $250/hour over 780 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 4: 17 days on, 13 days off…or 34 days on, 26 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $19,655 per month
Salary: $16,389
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $1500
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $250/hour over 780 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 5: 30 days on, 30 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $14,655 per month
Salary: $12,056
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $833
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $300/hour over 600 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 6: 2 months on, 2 months off
Total Monthly compensation: $12,155 per month
Salary: $9,556
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $833
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $250/hour over 560 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Contract Term: 3 year initial / Renewable
Contract Options: Living in China, or Commuter.
Total Compensation:
Total Compensation for Living in China: $25,665 per month (net)
Fly 980 hours per year, and make $332,220 per year!!
Option 1: 42 days of paid leave per year
Total Monthly compensation: $25,655 per month
Salary: $21,889
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $2000
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $300/hour over 900 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 2: 22 days on, 8 days off or 44 days on, 16 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $24,655 per month
Salary: $20,889
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $2000
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $280/hour over 900 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 3: 19 days on, 11 days off…or 38 days on, 22 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $20,655 per month
Salary: $17,389
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $1500
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $250/hour over 780 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 4: 17 days on, 13 days off…or 34 days on, 26 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $19,655 per month
Salary: $16,389
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $1500
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $250/hour over 780 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 5: 30 days on, 30 days off
Total Monthly compensation: $14,655 per month
Salary: $12,056
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $833
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $300/hour over 600 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Option 6: 2 months on, 2 months off
Total Monthly compensation: $12,155 per month
Salary: $9,556
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $833
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $250/hour over 560 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
10-05-2015, 05:34 AM
#136
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 296
[QUOTE=EXPAT1;1985549]Industry leading in China, just for a comparison.
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Option 4. Living in China.
5. Flying into crappy Chinese airports
6. Flying with Chinese FO's.
7. Working for Chinese management.
8. Did I say living in China?!
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Option 4. Living in China.
5. Flying into crappy Chinese airports
6. Flying with Chinese FO's.
7. Working for Chinese management.
8. Did I say living in China?!
10-05-2015, 06:01 AM
#137
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,199
Originally Posted by Viper446
Industry leading in China, just for a comparison.
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Option 4. Living in China.
5. Flying into crappy Chinese airports
6. Flying with Chinese FO's.
7. Working for Chinese management.
8. Did I say living in China?!
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Option 4. Living in China.
5. Flying into crappy Chinese airports
6. Flying with Chinese FO's.
7. Working for Chinese management.
8. Did I say living in China?!
10-05-2015, 06:48 AM
#138
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: 737 NG CAPT.
Posts: 216
[QUOTE=Viper446;1985605]
Again, your choice on the commuting option you choose.
Originally Posted by EXPAT1
Industry leading in China, just for a comparison.
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Option 4. Living in China. Many would choose to live where they want, especially when you have 60 days in one block off.
5. Flying into crappy Chinese airports, There is a good deal of International non-Chinese domestic flying also ie Singapore, KL, Bangkok, Japan, Korea.
6. Flying with Chinese FO's. Yes and many are excellent pilots.
7. Working for Chinese management. Yes and many are excellent buisnessmen.
8. Did I say living in China?!
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Option 4. Living in China. Many would choose to live where they want, especially when you have 60 days in one block off.
5. Flying into crappy Chinese airports, There is a good deal of International non-Chinese domestic flying also ie Singapore, KL, Bangkok, Japan, Korea.
6. Flying with Chinese FO's. Yes and many are excellent pilots.
7. Working for Chinese management. Yes and many are excellent buisnessmen.
8. Did I say living in China?!
10-05-2015, 06:57 AM
#139
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,820
Originally Posted by EXPAT1
Industry leading in China, just for a comparison.
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Contract Term: 3 year initial / Renewable
Contract Options: Living in China, or Commuter.
Total Compensation:
Total Compensation for Living in China: $25,665 per month (net)
Fly 980 hours per year, and make $332,220 per year!!
Option 1: 42 days of paid leave per year
Total Monthly compensation: $25,655 per month
Salary: $21,889
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $2000
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $300/hour over 900 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
Domicile: Xiamen, China
Contract Term: 3 year initial / Renewable
Contract Options: Living in China, or Commuter.
Total Compensation:
Total Compensation for Living in China: $25,665 per month (net)
Fly 980 hours per year, and make $332,220 per year!!
Option 1: 42 days of paid leave per year
Total Monthly compensation: $25,655 per month
Salary: $21,889
Housing allowance: $1100
Ticket Allowance: $500
Safety Bonus: $2000
Medical Ins. Allow. $166
Overtime: $300/hour over 900 hours/yr
Education allowance: $8000 per year per child, up to 2 children registered in school in China.
Renewal Bonus: $10, 000 per year after the first contract.
Financial performance bonus will be paid depending on company performance.
First, you said $25665 per month net. So that is after taxes are paid to both China and the U.S.????
Now, let's look at the TA. A HKG Captain will make $286.67 per hour plus an override of $10 per hour. The standard is 1000 hour/year. that comes to an average of $24,772 per month in wages. Add the housing allowance and you come up with $29,222 per month. No per diem added yet, no other extra pay. The education allowance is $15000 per year max, $1000 less per year than what you claim.
So, let's compare monthly wages. Last time I checked, $29,222>$25,665.
So which China based pilots would be industry leading?
10-05-2015, 07:12 AM
#140
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,756
Check out option 2, what a great deal. 22 days on, 8 days off. $24,655 total compensation per month, including $166 medical insurance reimbursement. We make more for working half of that, but you get to live in China!
I don't really mean to mock the options, because in today's flying environment, it's a pretty good deal. Just not something I want us to strive for.
I don't really mean to mock the options, because in today's flying environment, it's a pretty good deal. Just not something I want us to strive for.
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