Thanks Captain! Now I am sick!
10-06-2015, 05:51 AM
#21
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Here's my question: Where will we go to get money for contract 2023 if we use the sick leave to pay for this contract?
Pipe
I propose we have one of those blood bank trucks at the AOC every night. We wave the rule for giving blood within 24 hrs of flight. We negotiate a per pint rate, then we cut that rate in half. We get half, and the company gets half, which they use to pay for new improvements in the 2023 contract.
We police ourselves. If you see someone in AOC who doesn't look pale and dizzy, you call them out on it. We all need to give our pint of blood. Imagine how much money would be in the pot if we start this now!!!
Pipe
I propose we have one of those blood bank trucks at the AOC every night. We wave the rule for giving blood within 24 hrs of flight. We negotiate a per pint rate, then we cut that rate in half. We get half, and the company gets half, which they use to pay for new improvements in the 2023 contract.
We police ourselves. If you see someone in AOC who doesn't look pale and dizzy, you call them out on it. We all need to give our pint of blood. Imagine how much money would be in the pot if we start this now!!!
10-06-2015, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by supercruiser
As a group we are suffering a bit of cognitive dissonance on the subject of sick bank and retirement. Recall that for years prior to the TA a common crew lounge discussion citing the unfairness that your sick bank disappeared at retirement. Many of our group went on to pontificate that we should be compensated some portion of that bank at retirement... That was an argument I heard many of us make during the years prior to the TA, now just the reverse...
I'm reaching pretty far back here, but I don't seem to recall anyone suggesting that they wanted the DSA value cut by 50%.
Pipe
10-06-2015, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by urinmyseat
I propose we have one of those blood bank trucks at the AOC every night. We wave the rule for giving blood within 24 hrs of flight. We negotiate a per pint rate, then we cut that rate in half. We get half, and the company gets half, which they use to pay for new improvements in the 2023 contract.
We police ourselves. If you see someone in AOC who doesn't look pale and dizzy, you call them out on it. We all need to give our pint of blood. Imagine how much money would be in the pot if we start this now!!!
We police ourselves. If you see someone in AOC who doesn't look pale and dizzy, you call them out on it. We all need to give our pint of blood. Imagine how much money would be in the pot if we start this now!!!
Pipe
10-06-2015, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by supercruiser
As a group we are suffering a bit of cognitive dissonance on the subject of sick bank and retirement. Recall that for years prior to the TA a common crew lounge discussion citing the unfairness that your sick bank disappeared at retirement. Many of our group went on to pontificate that we should be compensated some portion of that bank at retirement... That was an argument I heard many of us make during the years prior to the TA, now just the reverse...
10-06-2015, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pipe
The common thread in those discussions was that we everyone seemed to feel that the DSA was an earned benefit that should be ours to use as we like.
I'm reaching pretty far back here, but I don't seem to recall anyone suggesting that they wanted the DSA value cut by 50%.
Pipe
I'm reaching pretty far back here, but I don't seem to recall anyone suggesting that they wanted the DSA value cut by 50%.
Pipe
10-06-2015, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
'Tis a convenient story, for sure....
What wasn't convienent was waking up Monday morning feeling like crap after flying 48 hours earlier with someone obviously sick, and then getting the very same symptoms he had. Could it have been picked up from the popcorn scooper in the AOC Saturday morning? Absolutely! The point of the thread was I did not appreciate my captain telling me that he was flying "under the weather" because of an expectation of a benefit he would get signed TA.
10-06-2015, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
Would you shoplift a $0.99 Hershey bar?
How about a $10,000 Rolex?
How about a $10,000 Rolex?
???
I wouldn't shoplift either --- stealing is both illegal & immoral
If you're asking whether a criminal would change his behavior based on the value of the good -- perhaps -- he's making a risk/reward trade off
That's why there is probably a mental difference between a "petty thief" and a "jewel thief"
Bottom line: If you economically incentivize a particular behavior, you typically get more of it
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