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Old 10-21-2015, 08:29 AM
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The real reason they should step down is they voted unanimously to end negotiations then whipsawed and immediately began viciously attacking the TA before anything was out about it .........no print copies, no roadshows nada.............it seems to me this duplicitous tactic was planned all along..........JMHO
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:52 AM
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The real reason they should step down is they voted unanimously to end negotiations then whipsawed and immediately began viciously attacking the TA before anything was out about it .........no print copies, no roadshows nada.............it seems to me this duplicitous tactic was planned all along..........JMHO

Me thinks you need to FACT check before hitting submit reply!

He has already been corrected on that point. Apparently he won't be encumbered by the truth.


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... why would the MEC vote unanimously to conclude negotiations and ...

The MEC did NOT vote unanimously to conclude negotiations. What are you talking about?






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Old 10-21-2015, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by skeebo2 View Post
Now that the TA is passed. Will the union leaders (DON, ANITA, etc) who vehemently railed against the contract. Please have the decency to step down.

Go back to the line where you belong. You don't represent most of us.

Please try to maintain some self respect.

This applies to all the "I TOLD you so" posts to follow= Waste of time
71% of the MEC members voted for the TA.
Yet, only 54% of the eligible pilots they represent, voted for the TA.

If only 270 of the "yes" voters had voted "No"...The TA would have failed.

I agree. Our MEC is NOT representative of us.

Just sayin'
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:27 PM
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If she leads your block then you may have something to say.... if not, then bloviate elsewhere. She definitely OVERWHELMINGLY represents a majority of her block. Fortunately, that is my block. Go away.
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:04 PM
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If she leads your block then you may have something to say.... if not, then bloviate elsewhere. She definitely OVERWHELMINGLY represents a majority of her block. Fortunately, that is my block. Go away.
Just to be precise, it is a LEC decision not a block decision. I like her too, she is not going anywhere unless she wants to.
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT View Post
The real reason they should step down is they voted unanimously to end negotiations then whipsawed and immediately began viciously attacking the TA before anything was out about it .........no print copies, no roadshows nada.............it seems to me this duplicitous tactic was planned all along..........JMHO
I know others have tried to explain it, but the above statement is profoundly disappointing. Clearly you don't understand anything that happened in the last couple of months. If pilots couldn't understand the simple information surrounding the votes, then I wonder how they possibly could've processed the complex details of the TA, regardless of which side they were on.

The 9-5 vote was to end negotiations and send the TA back for final language. Nine voted YES; end negotiations and create a TA. Five voted NO; keep negotiating.

4 of those 5 then voted not to send the resultant TA to the membership for ratification and they put out information on why they thought the TA wasn't good enough.

There was already an unsuccessful attempt to recall the Block 11 rep and now someone is suggesting a recall of another block rep.

The CRM takeaway is that anyone that says "I'm uncomfortable with that" needs to be fired. Real nice.
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Old 10-21-2015, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post

Just to be precise, it is a LEC decision not a block decision.

If you want to be precise, it is a LC (Local Council) decision. The Local Council consists of all the pilots in the three blocks, including the Block Reps, which are the Local Council Officers.

Those three alone are also the LEC, or Local Executive Council.

The information on our website is not correct when it says, "You are in LEC ____". Unless you're a Block Rep, you aren't. You're in LC ___.


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The 9-5 vote was to end negotiations and send the TA back for final language. Nine voted YES; end negotiations and create a TA. Five voted NO; keep negotiating.

4 of those 5 then voted not to send the resultant TA to the membership for ratification and they put out information on why they thought the TA wasn't good enough.

Actually, it was 3 of those 5 plus 1 more. Block 8 and Hong Kong voted "No", then "Yes." Anchorage voted "Yes", then "No".

So, in total, 6 of the 14 cast at least one "No" vote.





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Old 10-21-2015, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by skeebo2 View Post
Now that the TA is passed. Will the union leaders (DON, ANITA, etc) who vehemently railed against the contract. Please have the decency to step down.

Go back to the line where you belong. You don't represent most of us.

Please try to maintain some self respect.

This applies to all the "I TOLD you so" posts to follow= Waste of time
Your a raging idiot!
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:22 AM
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"Raging idiot" is that the best you can do?
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Old 10-22-2015, 09:42 AM
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"Raging idiot" is that the best you can do?

Everything I tried would show up like this ********* when I hit submit!
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