25.AA

3. In case of a duplicate or other assignment error, the following shall apply to the pilot, if any, who received the assignment in error.

a. If operational circumstances permit, such pilot shall be removed from the assignment and it shall be reassigned to the pilot who should have received the assignment, as provided in Section 25.AA.2.a.

b. If the pilot removed from the trip held trip guarantee for the trip, and received notice of the assignment, through VIPS or contact with CRS, he shall be eligible for compensatory make-up for the credit hours removed due to assignment error.

c. If the pilot removed from the trip did not hold trip guarantee for the trip, his entitlement to showpay shall be determined in accordance with other provisions of this Agreement.



The key is 3.b, "If the pilot removed from the trip held trip guarantee.."


Then go to 4.P.2

a. If a pilot is assigned a MUS, MUD or MUV trip, he shall earn trip guarantee if he blocks out on such trip. b. If a pilot is removed from a MUS, MUD or MUV trip prior to block-out, he shall be credited as follows:
i. If he is removed via VIPS more than 3:00 hours prior to his scheduled showtime, he shall receive no credit for that trip. ii. If he is removed via VIPS 3:00 hours or less prior to his scheduled showtime he shall be credited with 3 CH showpay. iii. If he is removed at or after his scheduled showtime, he shall be credited with 3 CH showpay. iv. Notwithstanding other provisions of this paragraph, if a pilot blocks out on another MUS, MUD or MUV trip with a showtime within 4 hours of the showtime of the original trip, he shall not receive showpay for the first trip.


Therefore, I get screwed!

 

Boxflyer-

It seems very frustrating that the Union didn't answer but please go through them & let the process run its course. It may not come out in your favor BUT maybe it will. Definitely don't let someone at the company tell you their "interpretation". NO SOUP FOR YOU!

 

I can assure you section 25.AA was not on the table.

 

Lag you are turning into a troll.

 

The guys continuously claiming I voted no it is all your fault are not the trolls? Expectation of what a no vote can accomplish are much higher than reality. Section 25.AA was not on the radar.

 

Warning, Warning, Warning: Thread Creep!!

LAG - I assume you are familiar with the reality of what both Delta & Southwest Airlines recently accomplished with No votes.

Why do you continue to insist similar improvements couldn't have been made here?

Yes, it's hard to forecast inflection points until they happen, but one cannot deny the past year has been exactly that with regards to airline industry contracts --- the pilot groups that stood up & said "I think we can get more" have done so.

They didn't get parked --- and they did it in a reasonable time period

It wasn't an impossibility here at FedEx --- it truly wasn't

 

Where is the like button?

 

boxflyer1, I want to make sure I got this right. You used our contract and the vacation section to drop an entire month of flying and get Thanksgiving off. You read that section really well. Now you are claiming you got “screwed” when you failed to read the same contract and you were removed from the MUV trip as allowed. Sorry I really don’t get that. We all need to read and understand the contract. If you are unsure contact the union. There are many people who would give up a lot just to get to spend Thanksgiving with their families. You still have all of Nov and DEC to make up any of those vacation hours you want. If you got “screwed”, you did it to yourself.

 

Of course he got screwed. He was removed from the trip because someone effed it up, not because the trip was revised or there was a conflict. Had he known what was going to happen, he might have bid differently, with his line and MUV request. He has.a right to be ****ed, first he lost his good trip at the last minute because someone screwed up, and there appears to be no recourse. Had they told him earlier, at least he might have had a chance to get something decent at open time drop.

This stinks that the contract was written this poorly, hopefully there is something the union can do. Maybe he can get something AVA, which would help.

 

So I guess the yes voters are responsible for the gear falling off Md 10s. Yes I am aware that after we signed our best in the industry contract UPS and Delta had some leverage to try to catch up to us. That being said everything wrong with our contract was sadly not a bone of contention. Had we voted no we might right now have a deal with a little more money, we would not have had any scheduling improvements, that was not the reason for the no votes. To be clear I would have no problem if anyone said I voted no so don't blame me for retirement, while wrong at least that is logical. But to say I voted no it is not my fault section 25.AA didn't get improved is wrong AND illogical.

Delta rejected their first POS TA. Rightly in my opinion. UPS accepted their first TA, mainly because they exceeded our pay rate by about 2%, improved their A Plan so that pilots retiring before 2021 almost catch up to us, and improved a lot of their work rules to match ours.