Un Deviation
01-15-2017, 09:07 AM
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Un Deviation
I remember during contract negotiations that we would be able to un deviate during a deadhead.
If the deviation has a connection in a city where the scheduled deadhead and the deviation leg are the same, can you un deviate?
If the deviation has a connection in a city where the scheduled deadhead and the deviation leg are the same, can you un deviate?
01-15-2017, 11:05 AM
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If you pick up the originally scheduled flight on the second leg as part of your deviation, you can do your final check in for that second flight like you would have if you were starting from Memphis. But you have to actually book that originally scheduled leg as part of your deviation.
01-15-2017, 04:07 PM
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From my experience...you need to deviate both legs MEM-XYZ-ZYX then rebook just the XYZ-ZYX leg on the same flight number. When at the gate you can do your final check in for the trip since you are joining a company scheduled DH leg.
As a bonus call crew services and have your ground transportation turned back on since it will be cancelled when you deviate. Since you are joining the company DH leg you get the ground transportation back.
As a bonus call crew services and have your ground transportation turned back on since it will be cancelled when you deviate. Since you are joining the company DH leg you get the ground transportation back.
01-15-2017, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
In theory,
if you only deviate MEM-XYZ the ground transportation never goes away
if you only deviate MEM-XYZ the ground transportation never goes away
01-16-2017, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
When you select only one leg (domestic) it cancels both but keeps your ground transportation. It is only theory, and subject to the whims of the bean counters squeezing every penny, but it has been ops checked.
I agree ... this is how I thought it was supposed to work. I "thought" you could check just one of the boxes and deviate on one leg only and keep your ground transportation to the hotel (on the last leg).
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01-16-2017, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jetstar1
I remember during contract negotiations that we would be able to un deviate during a deadhead.
If the deviation has a connection in a city where the scheduled deadhead and the deviation leg are the same, can you un deviate?
If the deviation has a connection in a city where the scheduled deadhead and the deviation leg are the same, can you un deviate?
Originally Posted by PostalAV8B
From my experience...you need to deviate both legs MEM-XYZ-ZYX then rebook just the XYZ-ZYX leg on the same flight number. When at the gate you can do your final check in for the trip since you are joining a company scheduled DH leg.
As a bonus call crew services and have your ground transportation turned back on since it will be cancelled when you deviate. Since you are joining the company DH leg you get the ground transportation back.
As a bonus call crew services and have your ground transportation turned back on since it will be cancelled when you deviate. Since you are joining the company DH leg you get the ground transportation back.
If you deviate both legs like Postal says, then your final check in says that you are within 100nm of your final destination airport. If something happens and you don't make it to your final destination in time for the trip, will you be protected? Maybe not, you did deviate on both legs and checked in saying you were within 100nm of your final destination, not within 100nm of the intermediate airport.
Just playing devils advocate.
01-16-2017, 08:42 AM
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Some time ago a SCP commented that he'd have a hard time disciplining a pilot jumpseating into Memphis who failed to make the trip, and within the timing wickets of our contract, yet was exercising Personal or Business Status to book the jumpseat vice Staging.
Yet it is only Staging that is contractually protected.
Personally, whether I'm traveling on commercial or jumpseating into work, if something goes awry I involve CRS and the DO if need be.
So, even if the final checkin statement is slightly different depending upon how I deviated hard for me to imagine FedEx dropping the hammer if I check-in at XYZ and the subsequent flight cancels. Even harder for me to imagine myself not giving the company a call and asking what the new plan is to get me there.
Yet it is only Staging that is contractually protected.
Personally, whether I'm traveling on commercial or jumpseating into work, if something goes awry I involve CRS and the DO if need be.
So, even if the final checkin statement is slightly different depending upon how I deviated hard for me to imagine FedEx dropping the hammer if I check-in at XYZ and the subsequent flight cancels. Even harder for me to imagine myself not giving the company a call and asking what the new plan is to get me there.
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