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Old 07-29-2018, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bjtdrvr View Post
At least on the domestic RL side you will get paid OT for those days.
OT? You sure about that? I think it just pays regular daily rate (better than the large cabins which are salaried).
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Old 07-29-2018, 01:52 PM
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You guys need to stop trying to tank this company. I am in IRL and I love it, but it’s not for everyone. Yes, I have to occasionally extend a day and that’s because we don’t overlap our schedule. I’ll maintain that flexibility any day to work 7/7 vs 8/6.

I work fewer days than I used to in the traditional fractional fleet.


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Old 07-29-2018, 02:11 PM
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You tanked yourselves. That new seniority list ought to be a quality body blow when it’s released.

And yes, the average domestic RL CA isn’t gong to be extended twice a month, but it’s yet another arbitrary loss without recourse to the Flex QOL, and you asked for it.
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Old 07-29-2018, 04:48 PM
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How do new hires get out of the Phenom? I've heard multiple pilots on the road say that you can refuse it as they are parking the CL's due to lack of crews.
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Old 07-29-2018, 10:06 PM
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How do new hires get out of the Phenom? I've heard multiple pilots on the road say that you can refuse it as they are parking the CL's due to lack of crews.
you mean not get assigned the phenom in new hire class? I don't think there is a way to guarantee you'll get one type or another. Looking at the last seniority list, recent new hires have gone into the Phenom, Challenger, Lear, and Legacy. It's been a mix.
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Old 07-30-2018, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JMO127 View Post
How do new hires get out of the Phenom? I've heard multiple pilots on the road say that you can refuse it as they are parking the CL's due to lack of crews.
So how do pilots that were hired in 2001 get to move out of the Phenom?
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JMO127 View Post
How do new hires get out of the Phenom? I've heard multiple pilots on the road say that you can refuse it as they are parking the CL's due to lack of crews.
Trust me,if you refuse it enough they will put you where you want to go.
Dont let them bluff you into taking a Phenom slot.
They need crews so bad right now that they will accommodate you.
Been there done that
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:31 AM
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Trust me,if you refuse it enough they will put you where you want to go.
Dont let them bluff you into taking a Phenom slot.
They need crews so bad right now that they will accommodate you.
Been there done that
That's crazy. I was just contuning the thread. I asked the same question on the NJ side.
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Old 07-30-2018, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Heywood2 View Post
Trust me,if you refuse it enough they will put you where you want to go.
Dont let them bluff you into taking a Phenom slot.
They need crews so bad right now that they will accommodate you.
Been there done that
Just for general discussion and having never flown the Phenom, is it that bad of an airplane? Again I've never flown one. Not trying to incite a riot or anything. Just asking for me.
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:24 AM
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It's good at what it is. That being an entry level jet. Very small, slow, flies a long way, no TR’s, single brakes and an interesting braking computer program and cheap.

NJ’s puts a size limitation on flying the thing. It looks good on the ramp, and highly cost sensitive (read cheap) owners are satisfied seeing leather seats and wood paneling. But it’s often referred to as the Lego jet, Phenis or Peon.

It has a bigger bax compartment than the Lear, is cheaper and can fly farther, but it’s so slow the Lear can generally do a fuel stop and still beat it to destination on a long leg.

I wouldn’t want to spend the next 10-15 years in the right seat of one.
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